swtchbckr wrote:dreddge....

I've just said 'yes' to the upgrade from 7 to 10, cos it's telling me the offer runs out on 29 July. Do i REALLY want to move to 10? My son's laptop has it and i hate it. I'm used to 7. We're on 7 at work. Should I bother? I've told it it can do it on Friday, so I still have time to pull out.

I'm on an old (maybe nearly 10 year old) Dell Inspiron, is it just gonna fuck it???

7 is likely to stay supported for at least until I get a new laptop, right?


Pros and cons please?

Also, I wouldn't know where to begin with a clean install.

Exact same situation here - be my guinea pig and report back please.

I've got 7 Pro on my work machine and a netbook. XP Pro on another laptop. And my main hybrid laptop with 10..
Windows eight I hated. Ten seems just like seven, so I have not really had any negative experiences. It does feel a little slower, but I suspect that's more our Internet connection rather than the computer (which was always a little underpowered).
On that note, what do people use to actually test performance between different machines? My hybrid can be very slow to open certain folders compared to say my big fat work machine, which to be fair only had to open small office type docs rather than media.
Same for Internet speed tests, use the same one, same time time etc?

I may upgrade soon simply to shut my computer up about it.........

mudguard wrote:I've got 7 Pro on my work machine and a netbook. XP Pro on another laptop. And my main hybrid laptop with 10..
Windows eight I hated. Ten seems just like seven, so I have not really had any negative experiences. It does feel a little slower, but I suspect that's more our Internet connection rather than the computer (which was always a little underpowered).
On that note, what do people use to actually test performance between different machines? My hybrid can be very slow to open certain folders compared to say my big fat work machine, which to be fair only had to open small office type docs rather than media.
Same for Internet speed tests, use the same one, same time time etc?

There is all sorts of different programs to benchmark different things, I used crystal disk to measure the epenis on my new hard drive speed, 3dmark for a super loose idea of game performance etc.

For those who are still unsure about 'upgrading' to win10: I have on one of our pc's, with the other i think i'll do a clean install on a spare hdd i have, then carry on using win7. As i understand it, once you have installed win10 the computer gets a digital signature so you can reinstall win 10 any time, for the life of the computer.

mudguard wrote:Ten seems just like seven, so I have not really had any negative experiences. It does feel a little slower, but I suspect that's more our Internet connection rather than the computer (which was always a little underpowered).

It's slower because it's sending all your files to microsoft HQ.

I've been running Win 10 on my 5 year old Dell Optiplex for a bit less than a year now. It works great.

The only issue I have had with it is the auto updates. The ONLY app that I run is VMWare workstation which I use to run my real desktops (Linux, WIN7 and very occasionally XP). I am happy for Win10 to automatically apply updates but when it reboots without warning it makes my virtual machines sad. I turned off automatic restarts but if I forget to manually reboot when it needs to apply an update it'll sometimes go ahead a do it for me.

Well just to add some balance to all these tails of wondrously easy upgrades. I went for the upgrade from 7 to 10 and the trackpad stopped working on my Series 7 Samsung laptop. No amount of driver updating would resolve it. so went back to 7. The virus that is win 10 has left my machine a buggy piece of crap that hangs on a daily basis and has blue screen of deathed on me twice in the past week. I'd like to moan more about it, but I'd best reboot now before it hangs up again.

so, from what i'm hearing it's relatively easy to backstep to 7 if the 10 install is nasty? (but from Rik's report that leaves it shitty??)

and also, from above, if i do the install, then backstep, because i've done the install once, i dont need to worry about the impending 29th July cut off?

Yeah I was wondering about that but I suspect if you back track to win 7 you might lose your digital signature. That's why I'm putting a freshly formatted hard drive in the laptop for a clean install of win 10 then putting original hd back in. Also a clean install using your win 7 license key is heaps quicker than a upgrade, and you won't have the issues thay rik is having.

And this is kinda where I am now. I suspect a clean install is the way forward for me now, either to 7 or 10.

And to be fair to Microsoft the issue is Samsung refusing to issue Win10 drivers for an "old" laptop.

Microsoft isn't going to cut people off after July. Their entire business plan now is subscription and data collection. They need the public on their new operating systems to make that happen.

So you're predicting an August 1st "Sale extended" eh.

Rik wrote:So you're predicting an August 1st "Sale extended" eh.

Or it being priced at like $US30.

Just bought a new laptop with win 10, not because I wanted to but because my faithful ancient dell reliably running xp has finally died, seems acceptable although that may be because it's all it ever had installed.

Tried it on the wife's samsung laptop, wifi kept dropping out, screen of death, drivers for left handed touchpad didn't work any more. Did a fresh install of Win 7 to get rid of it, and got stuck in the eternal updates black hole. Should have left the bloody thing alone.

The desktop is still on xp, with a back door to still get updates, I'll leave that one alone too I think.