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wuffy · *by **wuffy** on Sat 17/Apr/10 11:49am*

Prototype seats for Sam Hill and Fairclough....

WTF?

pushbikerider · *by **pushbikerider** on Sat 17/Apr/10 11:59am*

Fraser wrote:When are these bikes available, I just get a bit mixed up with the seasons eg it is April 2010 now but in bike land it is 2011.

What we are seeing is the first of the pre release 2011 product, in NZ we will see available from September / October most of the production 2011 product (with a few late lines in December / January)

and it sounds like Fox Forks 2011 will be here June / July (but they always release new product super early)

dented · *by **dented** on Sat 17/Apr/10 12:58pm*

I want one of those seats, but a bit narrower and with less rolling resistance. Maybe tubeless too, so I can run it at a lower pressure.

shmoodiver · *by **shmoodiver** on Sat 17/Apr/10 2:25pm*

wuffy · *by **wuffy** on Sun 18/Apr/10 4:30pm*

http://hagoromo.blogspot.com/2010/04/khs-dh-prototype-sea-otter-2010.html

New KHS Dh bike, (Pretty much a mondraker with a different sticker :lol:

)

"This build belongs to Team KHS rider Logan Binggeli and is one of only two in existence. It weighs in (with the Manitou rear air can) at just over 36 pounds and has a unique BB linkage (that you can read about in a future issue of decline magazine) that, "Feels like a moto," as Logan puts it, "And can pedal through everything."

Wills27 · *by **Wills27** on Sun 18/Apr/10 5:48pm*

wuffy wrote:http://hagoromo.blogspot.com/2010/04/khs-dh-prototype-sea-otter-2010.html

New KHS Dh bike, (Pretty much a mondraker with a different sticker )

"This build belongs to Team KHS rider Logan Binggeli and is one of only two in existence. It weighs in (with the Manitou rear air can) at just over 36 pounds and has a unique BB linkage (that you can read about in a future issue of decline magazine) that, "Feels like a moto," as Logan puts it, "And can pedal through everything."

But probably a hell of alot cheaper!

wuffy · *by **wuffy** on Sun 18/Apr/10 7:44pm*

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/sea-otter- ... racia.html

Found what that Santa Cruz photo was, it's a custom Nickel 4x.

jeyboi · *by **jeyboi** on Sun 18/Apr/10 8:01pm*

fatwombat wrote:
wuffy wrote:Jebus... 30 speed?! Why????? .

I don't think they're looking for 30 speeds, mostly people go to 10 at the back so they can cut down to 2 chainrings - e.g. 11-24 or 12-36 at the back, 26/40 on the front - pretty much the same overall range of gears but with less redundancy. Benefits are partly weight (this mainly for the obsessives ) but chiefly to give better performance of the drive train.

I must admit I'm tempted - I'd happily lose my top ratios to get a bigger granny and smoother simpler shifting (e.g.12-36 with 24/38).

Smoother shifting? Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but 10sp doesn't shift any smoother than 9sp. I'm not sure of the numbers, but isn't a granny of 24:36 an almost identical gear to 22:34?

wuffy · *by **wuffy** on Sun 18/Apr/10 8:40pm*

jeyboi wrote:
fatwombat wrote:
wuffy wrote:Jebus... 30 speed?! Why????? .

I don't think they're looking for 30 speeds, mostly people go to 10 at the back so they can cut down to 2 chainrings - e.g. 11-24 or 12-36 at the back, 26/40 on the front - pretty much the same overall range of gears but with less redundancy. Benefits are partly weight (this mainly for the obsessives ) but chiefly to give better performance of the drive train.

I must admit I'm tempted - I'd happily lose my top ratios to get a bigger granny and smoother simpler shifting (e.g.12-36 with 24/38).

Smoother shifting? Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but 10sp doesn't shift any smoother than 9sp. I'm not sure of the numbers, but isn't a granny of 24:36 an almost identical gear to 22:34?

24 / 36 = 0.666666667

22 / 34 = 0.647058824

Slightly higher, not noticable though I'd say.

wuffy · *by **wuffy** on Sun 18/Apr/10 10:23pm*

http://www.vitalmtb.com/videos/features ... /sspomer,2

For you DH weight weenies. Vivid air, specifically for DH.

Astoria Paranoia · *by **Astoria Paranoia** on Sun 18/Apr/10 10:30pm*

These new ODI bars are a novel idea.

Adjust the width without irreversible cutting.
Run then narrow for tight tracks or wide for extra leverage.

Though they'll probably never catch on.

wuffy · *by **wuffy** on Sun 18/Apr/10 10:44pm*

If you've got the grips with the lockring on the outside wouldn't it auto-extend or something when you're riding :lol:

or has it got some sort of lock.

dented · *by **dented** on Sun 18/Apr/10 10:47pm*

2 different length end-plugs, and you screw them in until they're tight

Astoria Paranoia · *by **Astoria Paranoia** on Sun 18/Apr/10 10:48pm*

wuffy wrote:If you've got the grips with the lockring on the outside wouldn't it auto-extend or something when you're riding or has it got some sort of lock.

Yeah maybe.
I've had one collar done up tight and one loose on mine once and could get the grip to rotate.

dented wrote:2 different length end-plugs, and you screw them in until they're tight

Bet someone would run them not fully tight

wuffy · *by **wuffy** on Sun 18/Apr/10 10:54pm*

Astoria Paranoia wrote:
dented wrote:2 different length end-plugs, and you screw them in until they're tight

Bet someone would run them not fully tight

Bet some groms will try and make their own ends to get them up to 850 or something, and then sue ODI for not telling them not to when they snap the bars and own themselves.

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