Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby JohnnyC on Wed 7/Oct/09 7:52am

shmoodiver wrote:
slidecontrol wrote:the argyle SCU is a workable swap, how different is the tora?



argyle came about by peeps putting tora and pike together. AFAIK


I think you might find that the Pike damper and spring won't slot in to the Tora CSU because the bottom on the stanchion tubes are "rolled" or pressed together where as the Pike will have a circlip or something like that holding the damper and spring in to the stanchions.

And yes, Dicks-naughty needs a softer spring, what sort of fork is it?
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby shmoodiver on Wed 7/Oct/09 11:43am

JohnnyC wrote:
shmoodiver wrote:
slidecontrol wrote:the argyle SCU is a workable swap, how different is the tora?



argyle came about by peeps putting tora and pike together. AFAIK


I think you might find that the Pike damper and spring won't slot in to the Tora CSU because the bottom on the stanchion tubes are "rolled" or pressed together where as the Pike will have a circlip or something like that holding the damper and spring in to the stanchions.


yeah got it in one jc, i knew that too, just needed reminding
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby bigJIMMY on Fri 9/Oct/09 7:24pm

hey hommies,

i am trying to build my new rig up and are coming acropper on a couple of things.

1. how do i change the bushings on my fox shock? both front and rear (terms :blush: ) need to be changed to fit the frame.

2. i have spaced my BB out 5mm on both sides, (73mm /150 / 83 cranks ) to get the chainguide to fit i take it that i need to space it out as well by 5mm?

3. big mother of a crown race. i have got a sunline headset that i need to pop the crown race onto some boxxers. the crownrace is huge, and doesn't look tapered in any way, how do i get this to seat properly? any tricks ?


THNAKS!
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby Monolith on Fri 9/Oct/09 7:31pm

Bushes or reducers? Reducers often just pull out by hand/pliers.

Your crown race needs to be smashed onto your steerer using maximum force. The steerer has the taper on it, not the race.
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby JohnnyC on Fri 9/Oct/09 7:37pm

bigJIMMY wrote:hey hommies,

i am trying to build my new rig up and are coming acropper on a couple of things.

1. how do i change the bushings on my fox shock? both front and rear (terms :blush: ) need to be changed to fit the frame.

2. i have spaced my BB out 5mm on both sides, (73mm /150 / 83 cranks ) to get the chainguide to fit i take it that i need to space it out as well by 5mm?

3. big mother of a crown race. i have got a sunline headset that i need to pop the crown race onto some boxxers. the crownrace is huge, and doesn't look tapered in any way, how do i get this to seat properly? any tricks ?


THNAKS!


1: I assume you mean the reducers which are pressed in and can be pulled out with pliers, putting it in a vise or carefully prying them out with a screwdriver. They might need a bit of wiggling, but should pretty much just pull out.

2: That sounds really dodgy? an 83mm bottom bracket needs a 2.5mm spacer between the cup and frame anyway so to make that work you won't have anywhere near enough thread left in the frame and end up damaging your frame. You need cranks designed for a 68/73mm BB shell.

3: Crown races need to be smashed (for lack of a better word) on to the steerer so find a bit of pipe slightly bigger than the sterrer, slide it over and on to the crown race then hammer it down.
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby Wobbler on Fri 9/Oct/09 7:42pm

spacing out on the bb is very silly

raceface do a kit to fit 83 to 73/68 (for bikes with a wider chainline ala demos) and they space on the spindle not the bb.
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby Monolith on Fri 9/Oct/09 7:50pm

Also, I'm interested in your hommies.
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby bigJIMMY on Fri 9/Oct/09 8:14pm

JohnnyC wrote:
bigJIMMY wrote:hey hommies,

i am trying to build my new rig up and are coming acropper on a couple of things.

1. how do i change the bushings on my fox shock? both front and rear (terms :blush: ) need to be changed to fit the frame.

2. i have spaced my BB out 5mm on both sides, (73mm /150 / 83 cranks ) to get the chainguide to fit i take it that i need to space it out as well by 5mm?

3. big mother of a crown race. i have got a sunline headset that i need to pop the crown race onto some boxxers. the crownrace is huge, and doesn't look tapered in any way, how do i get this to seat properly? any tricks ?


THNAKS!







1: I assume you mean the reducers which are pressed in and can be pulled out with pliers, putting it in a vise or carefully prying them out with a screwdriver. They might need a bit of wiggling, but should pretty much just pull out.

2: That sounds really dodgy? an 83mm bottom bracket needs a 2.5mm spacer between the cup and frame anyway so to make that work you won't have anywhere near enough thread left in the frame and end up damaging your frame. You need cranks designed for a 68/73mm BB shell.

3: Crown races need to be smashed (for lack of a better word) on to the steerer so find a bit of pipe slightly bigger than the sterrer, slide it over and on to the crown race then hammer it down.



thanks,

2. the bottom bracket is 73mm, the crankset is 83mm. using a megaexo bb there is shitloads of thread left to do this. then i should get correct chainline for the 150 rear end. i have 5mm of spacers each side of the frame.

if i am wrong tell me.
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby bigJIMMY on Fri 9/Oct/09 8:18pm

Wobbler wrote:spacing out on the bb is very silly

raceface do a kit to fit 83 to 73/68 (for bikes with a wider chainline ala demos) and they space on the spindle not the bb.



why is it really silly? do you know the megaexo BB's? the thread is huge! again am i way wrong?
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby bigJIMMY on Fri 9/Oct/09 8:32pm

:)

silver bits :blush: need to come out? plyers? can't get them to move.
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby ratrod on Fri 9/Oct/09 8:38pm

A vice. Or good pliers. And a twisting motion.
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby Monolith on Fri 9/Oct/09 8:56pm

Is the BB ISIS or external? I'm guessing it's ISIS if it's got lotsa thread...
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby Mr_Bob on Fri 9/Oct/09 10:38pm

bigJIMMY wrote::)

silver bits :blush: need to come out? plyers? can't get them to move.


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Bench vice (gently) and wrapped in a rag a couple of tomes so as not to ghark up the surfaces.
or if your bench vice doesn't have a knurled surface, clamp lightly, and turn side to side.
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby bigJIMMY on Fri 9/Oct/09 10:52pm

:)


thanks .. should have it built tomorrow with any luck :thumbsup:
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Re: Bike Mechanics Impart Their Wisdom On Vorb

Postby Mr_Bob on Fri 9/Oct/09 10:59pm

bigJIMMY wrote: :)


thanks .. should have it built tomorrow with any luck :thumbsup:

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