happybaboon wrote:It's amazing such a magnificent front panel was possible alongside next generation cooling performance.

Two big fans sucking in at the back and exiting through the PSU is a decent solution so long as the fans are both variable speed and can go slow enough to be quiet.

I see lots of home computers with modern-style cases i.e. flow-through designs with stupid little front vents that are inadequate when brand new even if they are blocked by sinking into a carpet. They get blocked by dust stuck on a framework of cat hair, sometimes stuck together with sausage fat.

Simonius_Titius wrote:sometimes stuck together with sausage fat.

So the lesson we can take away from this is:

DON'T COOK SAUSAGES IN THE HOME THEATRE ROOM KIDS

Simonius_Titius wrote:I see lots of home computers with modern-style cases i.e. flow-through designs with stupid little front vents that are inadequate when brand new even if they are blocked by sinking into a carpet. They get blocked by dust stuck on a framework of cat hair, sometimes stuck together with sausage fat.

even better is the modern trend to sit the PSU at the bottom of the case, and have it suck in thru the bottom and blow out the back. Sure, it means the PSU only needs to deal with it's own waste heat (which is an issue with the trend to 750W+ monster supplies), but they're a bugger for ingesting crap. I ended up flipping the PSU in my desktop so it now sucks air from the main part of the case instead - with the pleasant bonus of less noise (the stupid filter/grille on the bottom inlet was restricting flow and causing noise)

as for main case fans - invest in a pile of noctua fans, worth every $$$, quiet and last for ever

Rik wrote:

Simonius_Titius wrote:sometimes stuck together with sausage fat.

So the lesson we can take away from this is:

DON'T COOK SAUSAGES IN THE HOME THEATRE ROOM KIDS

Why the feck is there cooking apparatus in the home theater room??

No one want sausage fat on the screen!

danose wrote:

Simonius_Titius wrote:I see lots of home computers with modern-style cases i.e. flow-through designs with stupid little front vents that are inadequate when brand new even if they are blocked by sinking into a carpet. They get blocked by dust stuck on a framework of cat hair, sometimes stuck together with sausage fat.

even better is the modern trend to sit the PSU at the bottom of the case, and have it suck in thru the bottom and blow out the back. Sure, it means the PSU only needs to deal with it's own waste heat (which is an issue with the trend to 750W+ monster supplies), but they're a bugger for ingesting crap. I ended up flipping the PSU in my desktop so it now sucks air from the main part of the case instead - with the pleasant bonus of less noise (the stupid filter/grille on the bottom inlet was restricting flow and causing noise)

as for main case fans - invest in a pile of noctua fans, worth every $$$, quiet and last for ever

bottom psu is best psu

just dont put your comp on some carpet like a savage

Percy Pig wrote:

Rik wrote:

Simonius_Titius wrote:sometimes stuck together with sausage fat.

So the lesson we can take away from this is:

DON'T COOK SAUSAGES IN THE HOME THEATRE ROOM KIDS

Why the feck is there cooking apparatus in the home theater room??

No one want sausage fat on the screen!

Why is your screen so small that it has to be close to your seatside inter- intermission snack fryer.

danose wrote:

Simonius_Titius wrote:I see lots of home computers with modern-style cases i.e. flow-through designs with stupid little front vents that are inadequate when brand new even if they are blocked by sinking into a carpet. They get blocked by dust stuck on a framework of cat hair, sometimes stuck together with sausage fat.

even better is the modern trend to sit the PSU at the bottom of the case, and have it suck in thru the bottom and blow out the back. Sure, it means the PSU only needs to deal with it's own waste heat (which is an issue with the trend to 750W+ monster supplies), but they're a bugger for ingesting crap. I ended up flipping the PSU in my desktop so it now sucks air from the main part of the case instead - with the pleasant bonus of less noise (the stupid filter/grille on the bottom inlet was restricting flow and causing noise)

as for main case fans - invest in a pile of noctua fans, worth every $$$, quiet and last for ever

Found this with my media pc - it's designed to suck in from the side. Thankfully I looked closer and they've also bodged in some holes so you can run in the other way if you want. I switched it around and immediately halved both the noise level of the computer, and the temperature of the passive graphics card

AgrAde wrote:immediately halved both the noise level of the computer, and the temperature of the passive graphics card

which passive card are you running - I used passive 8800/9600 nvidias back in the day, which were ok, but needed a LOT of case cooling (the card was sucking about 100w) - have now gone to a passive ati 7750 which is heaps better (barely sips power, so less waste heat to deal with) - and is still quicker than the old cards

100W passive wtf? Whats the point in a passive card when you need a bunch of other fans to compensate?

8600GT. Seems fine so far, doesn't get used for games. Glad your ATI card is working for you. Personally I'll buy another one at the same time I get a vodafone cellphone. IE never again in my whole life.

Wobbler wrote:100W passive wtf? Whats the point in a passive card when you need a bunch of other fans to compensate?

for what were doing (molecular modelling and computational chemisty) it made sense - easier to whack a pile big/expensive case fans (see above statement about noctua) in than deal with the invariable CRAP fans on video cards (that like to die when running 24/7)

talking of which the fan on the graphics card in one of the macpros has decided to get noisy - $800 for a replacement card (may be a relatively cheap ATI but of course it's got apple roms on it, so that'll be $800 for a card that in PC form retails for $300)

AgrAde wrote:8600GT. Seems fine so far, doesn't get used for games. Glad your ATI card is working for you. Personally I'll buy another one at the same time I get a vodafone cellphone. IE never again in my whole life.

I've still got a couple of those old gigabyte passive 8600s in the drawer here (as well as the sucessor passive 9600). Good cards - utterly reliable

I don't run 3d gfx so have had no issues with the ATI - I know they're not overly popular with gamers for good reason though. I'd have stuck with nvidia but all the fanless options are gutless things like 730/610 :-(

danose wrote:

Wobbler wrote:100W passive wtf? Whats the point in a passive card when you need a bunch of other fans to compensate?

for what were doing (molecular modelling and computational chemisty) it made sense - easier to whack a pile big/expensive fan cases (see above statement about noctua) in than deal with the invariable CRAP fans on video cards (that like to die when running 24/7)

talking of which the fan on the graphics card in one of the macpros has decided to get noisy - $800 for a replacement card (may be a relatively cheap ATI but of course it's got apple roms on it, so that'll be $800 for a card that in PC form retails for $300)

Fans dying on cards are sweet, one fan died on my old 560ti and they gave me a 660 as replacement (which I then sold to my brother ads I have already purchased a different card)

Wobbler wrote:Fans dying on cards are sweet, one fan died on my old 560ti and they gave me a 660 as replacement (which I then sold to my brother ads I have already purchased a different card)

should have just gone with one of these - can replace the fans with decent ones, and you can use it to heat the house

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/produc ... id=5255#ov

danose wrote:

Wobbler wrote:Fans dying on cards are sweet, one fan died on my old 560ti and they gave me a 660 as replacement (which I then sold to my brother ads I have already purchased a different card)

should have just gone with one of these - can replace the fans with decent ones, and you can use it to heat the house

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/produc ... id=5255#ov

I got a 4gb 770 just before the 900 series announcement

Its rowdy as fuck when it winds up and throws out a silly amount of heat.

Still at least its the way its meant to be played and not some grotty amd thingy