Claude wrote:Nagem - I can understand where he's coming from with that comment re not being a criminal. It was a mistake what he did, it wasn't a blatant and premeditated act like what most crims commit (who end up inside).

My point is that a very large majority of men are in prison for making mistakes. Not a great deal of them are 'criminals'.

*stares*

I blame movies.

I guess whoever killed the woman this morning in CHCH knows the deal.
No Stop = No problem

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/3 ... eton-crash

A 42-year-old woman is dead following a crash on Springs Road and Marshs Road, near Prebbleton.
Police say the crash involved a cyclist and a car.
Inspector Paul Fremaux, of southern police communications, said the car had left the scene after the accident and the police wanted to track it down and interview the driver.
There were few other details about the accident which happened around 7.15am.
"A vehicle left the scene and we are interested in locating that and identifying and interviewing the driver,'' said Fremaux.
Any witnesses to the accident should contact police on 03 363 7400.
Springs Road was now open to traffic.

nagem wrote:

Claude wrote:Nagem - I can understand where he's coming from with that comment re not being a criminal. It was a mistake what he did, it wasn't a blatant and premeditated act like what most crims commit (who end up inside).

My point is that a very large majority of men are in prison for making mistakes. Not a great deal of them are 'criminals'.

sick to death of reading about people in court going "sorry I made a mistake" as a way of trivialising something they did and avoiding responsibility for it. it's not a "mistake" or an "error of judgement" for someone to drive off trashed, or to assault someone in the pub, or grope a woman in the street. it is committing an act for which there is a penalty.

the question people need to ask themselves when they're texing from behind the wheel, or whatever neglegent deed they're commiting is "what am I expecting to happen?". It might seem trivial to lose focus from the road for a moment, but the difference between nothing bad happening and killing someone is decided only by the laws of probability.

What i'm worried about....

This guy is going to be back on the roads in 3 years.

There's absolutely nothing stopping him from doing it again.

Is this another one of those pathetic "sorry I made a mistake" excuses?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3 ... king-death

Have I read all that right? Unbelievable.

Sounds like the evidence that he actually kicked the guy was not good. In which case probably the right decision made!

Not stopping after the accident isn't such a good look, but it doesn't equate to manslaughter or grievous bodily harm.

happybaboon wrote:Sounds like the evidence that he actually kicked the guy was not good. In which case probably the right decision made!

Not stopping after the accident isn't such a good look, but it doesn't equate to manslaughter or grievous bodily harm.

seconded