What do you think Bill's Budget will do?

Poll ended at Thu 28/May/09 8:26am

It will come down hard on beneficiaries
9
38%
It will come down hard on the tertiary sector
8
33%
It will majorly restructure health services
6
25%
It will significantly cull bits of the government sector
10
42%
It will "postpone" the promised tax cuts
17
71%
It will move towards privatising government agencies
11
46%
It will severely cut contributions to the Cullen Fund
12
50%
It will involve a lot of smoke and mirrors and achieve very little
11
46%
It will legalise marijuana - doubling the value of our agriculture exports overnight
2
8%
Nothing that will affect me so I don't care about it
0
No votes
I have no frigging idea - what Budget?
2
8%
 
Total voters : 24

Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby E Dogg Capizzle on Thu 28/May/09 2:20pm

thorg wrote:havent we already had a tax cut?


You mean the one that Labour budgeted for in 2008?
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby thorg on Thu 28/May/09 2:26pm

E Dogg Capizzle wrote:
thorg wrote:havent we already had a tax cut?


You mean the one that Labour budgeted for in 2008?
that'l be the one. Thought I remembered somewhere in the past (but recent) I got an extra 7 cents or something.

nothing staggeringly interesting in the stuff article - though it is just the media reporting of the budget.

Anyone got a decent yet simple review of what it (the budget) means that is unbiased?

i mean, all the stuff on stuff is about babs :0
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/2450 ... -of-Baboon
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby happybaboon on Thu 28/May/09 2:35pm

That guy is an embarrassment to baboonkind :(

What it means is that you don't get the tax cut that National used to buy your vote. Also they've cut contributions to the super fund, but that's fair enough I suppose because there's not really much sense in borrowing money at a higher interest rate to reinvest it in something which generates less interest...

I guess one good thing is that by not doing the tax cut thing they won't have to borrow for tax cuts :)
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby BrokenKonaRider on Thu 28/May/09 2:39pm

Any cycleway mention?
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby BrokenKonaRider on Thu 28/May/09 2:41pm

Oh, there it is: "create a series of regional cycleways..."
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0905/S00476.htm
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby thorg on Thu 28/May/09 2:41pm

happybaboon wrote:That guy is an embarrassment to baboonkind :(

What it means is that you don't get the tax cut that National used to buy your vote. Also they've cut contributions to the super fund, but that's fair enough I suppose because there's not really much sense in borrowing money at a higher interest rate to reinvest it in something which generates less interest...

I guess one good thing is that by not doing the tax cut thing they won't have to borrow for tax cuts :)
I didnt vote national so they didnt buy my vote ;-)

had a quick hunt and so far all I can find is nat nuts raving how smart the budget is and Lab lackies saying how bad it is :-(

Is there a summary of facts without judgements somewhere? I'd like to decide for myself whether it will be good or bad for me rather than have someone tell me - but I cant be bothered reading the whole budget (dont ask for much do I :lol: )
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby E Dogg Capizzle on Thu 28/May/09 2:45pm

thorg wrote:had a quick hunt and so far all I can find is nat nuts raving how smart the budget is and Lab lackies saying how bad it is :-(

Is there a summary of facts without judgements somewhere? I'd like to decide for myself whether it will be good or bad for me rather than have someone tell me - but I cant be bothered reading the whole budget (dont ask for much do I :lol: )


How laudable of you not to sully your reputation by having an actual opinion.
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby happybaboon on Thu 28/May/09 2:47pm

thorg wrote:Is there a summary of facts without judgements somewhere?

I very much doubt it.

It's probably the best they could do under the circumstances.... But they still backed out of their ridiculous tax cut promises. Shame on National and shame on everyone who got sucked into voting for them by the "time for change.... and we'll give you money!" mantra :)
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby thorg on Thu 28/May/09 2:49pm

E Dogg Capizzle wrote:
thorg wrote:had a quick hunt and so far all I can find is nat nuts raving how smart the budget is and Lab lackies saying how bad it is :-(

Is there a summary of facts without judgements somewhere? I'd like to decide for myself whether it will be good or bad for me rather than have someone tell me - but I cant be bothered reading the whole budget (dont ask for much do I :lol: )


How laudable of you not to sully your reputation by having an actual opinion.
I find it difficult to form an opinion between two things without enough information from which to decern a difference. how do you manage it?
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby E Dogg Capizzle on Thu 28/May/09 2:51pm

thorg wrote: I find it difficult to form an opinion between two things without enough information from which to decern a difference. how do you manage it?


By reading the two links posted above that set the budget out in pretty extensive detail? :eh:
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby thorg on Thu 28/May/09 2:58pm

E Dogg Capizzle wrote:
thorg wrote: I find it difficult to form an opinion between two things without enough information from which to decern a difference. how do you manage it?


By reading the two links posted above that set the budget out in pretty extensive detail? :eh:
I found them rather limited articles, I wanted more, but not the entire budget.

My opinion based upon what I have so far read?

Essentially no effect on me personally, or professionally - completely neutral in that regard (which is why I was hunting for some more info). As for the good ol "good for the country" stakes, I think its a winner . Some wins some loss, but a lot less disruptive than it could have been.

And your opinion?
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby E Dogg Capizzle on Thu 28/May/09 3:00pm

thorg wrote:
And your opinion?


I like to feign cynicism about the political process as a means of avoiding any engagement with it, so no opinions here. :)











Sorry for being an arsehole. :D
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby iodi on Thu 28/May/09 3:02pm

More information available from Treasury's budget 2009 page - particularly the Executive Summary and Key facts for taxpayers.
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby thorg on Thu 28/May/09 3:09pm

iodi wrote:More information available from Treasury's budget 2009 page - particularly the Executive Summary and Key facts for taxpayers.
noice - cheers :thumbsup:

And on closer examination of the Home Insulation stuffs, I may get to have that underfloor insulation done at Phunks taxpayer expense :0
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Re: What's Your Call On Bill's Budget?

Postby skint on Thu 28/May/09 3:30pm

It seems unnecessarily bleak, but so does the fiscal outlook, so there you go.
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