What will John sell off first?

Air New Zealand
1
2%
Mighty River Power
9
22%
Genesis Energy
2
5%
Solid Energy
2
5%
Merdian Energy
4
10%
Gerry Brownlee's anal virginity
23
56%
 
Total voters : 41

Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby CrustyMTB on Tue 29/Nov/11 8:53pm

Wobbler wrote:ban further earthquakes
The earthquakes were part of the National Election strategy, there's a reason Gerry is Minister in charge of Earthquakes.
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Mickyfinn on Tue 29/Nov/11 9:59pm

Nick_K wrote:
ThingOne wrote:Where should the money come from?, in realistic terms that affect NZ, saying "tax the rich" is not a solution


How about a more progressive tax system, capital gains tax to capture the large untaxed incomes that exist in NZ or growth through research, development and green technology.

Oh wait, no one liked those suggestions :(

Once we sell the current assets what do we sell in our next financial crisis? Even if you are a fan of selling off our assets you can't argue it fixes NZ's underlying economic problems.


What are nz underlying problems??
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Kazmeistyr on Tue 29/Nov/11 10:05pm

Too many hippies
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Wobbler on Tue 29/Nov/11 10:06pm

solo mums
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Mickyfinn on Tue 29/Nov/11 10:07pm

south auckland
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Wobbler on Tue 29/Nov/11 10:08pm

not enough electrolytes
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Mickyfinn on Tue 29/Nov/11 10:10pm

its gotta be something unique to NZ....
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Wobbler on Tue 29/Nov/11 10:12pm

right hand rule
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Mickyfinn on Tue 29/Nov/11 10:14pm

thats all that wrong and thats gunna changed soon and everything will be alright
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Conners on Tue 29/Nov/11 10:15pm

Wobbler wrote:right hand rule

Nah, people indicating right at roundabouts when they're actually going straight through...

Any party who makes resolvoing this issue their number one priority they will get my vote.
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby happybaboon on Tue 29/Nov/11 10:58pm

I find people who just don't indicate at all are a worse problem. Most of those who bother to indicate seem to do so correctly. Aside from a few who fail to indicate when exiting.

The far greater road issue is that I'm not allowed to PIT maneuver campervans when they drive at 20kph along windy rural roads and refuse to pull over and let others pass. This oversight needs to be corrected.
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby ThingOne on Wed 30/Nov/11 6:55am

Nick_K wrote:
ThingOne wrote:Where should the money come from?, in realistic terms that affect NZ, saying "tax the rich" is not a solution


How about a more progressive tax system, capital gains tax to capture the large untaxed incomes that exist in NZ or growth through research, development and green technology.

Oh wait, no one liked those suggestions :(

Once we sell the current assets what do we sell in our next financial crisis? Even if you are a fan of selling off our assets you can't argue it fixes NZ's underlying economic problems.


We already have a capital gains tax on investment property & shares, have done for yonks, the IRD just needs to go and collect it.
I too would love to see a great NZ industry in developing green tech, but this requires massive investment and is high risk, so not a practical solution for right now, besides is the govt the right entity to start doing this?. its a govt not a entrepreneur, imagine the backlash if/when something went wrong?.
Also why would any other entrepreneur want to take that risk?, as as soon as they became rich from their ideas, they would become hated.

The govt (any govt) is in a tricky spot in that whilst people have all these ideas they still have to deal with the here and now.
I personally would rather the govt didnt sell assets, but where else will it get the money from right now?, (no pie in the sky solutions, real workable solutions for RIGHT NOW)

They should go to every govt department and sack the guy with the big beer gut who smokes and complains all day, most govt depts I have been involved with have more than a few of these types.
If my experience of govt departments is anything to go by, there is huge time waste in committees, meetings, in fighting and bad decision making.

Oh and of course, salary cap in govt of $50,000 anything else is greedy, as to be working in govt you should be there for the people not yourself.
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Joel on Wed 30/Nov/11 8:21am

50K is being to generous.

IMHO the underlying NZ economic issue is that we do not generate enough government income to support our lifestyle and our socialist ideals.

we can tax everyone to hell and back. but realistically this won't achieve that much. with anyone with serious coin has arranged their affairs to minimise tax obligations anyway.. and good on them.

So, NZ needs to sell a LOT more of something offshore. Fonterra has this nailed for the dairy industry... only real growth areas are going to be high tech.. and i am not talking about software, i mean science based high tech. There is a lot of potential coming out of the SOE science labs etc.. they tend to founder on the island of lack of investment.

Or other option is hope for a big oil strike offshore... then we become an oil driven economy which pretty much screws our commodity exports.

on the topic of oil, read an interesting article on the weekend about research into bioinjuneering bacteria that produce oil, very cool. hopeful that tech makes it to market one day. unfortunately not from NZ though.
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Conners on Wed 30/Nov/11 8:28am

happybaboon wrote:I find people who just don't indicate at all are a worse problem. Most of those who bother to indicate seem to do so correctly. Aside from a few who fail to indicate when exiting.

I've wasted several years of my life waiting for people who are entering roundabouts 180°opposite me, indicating right, but going straight through.... Motyherfuckers don't generally switch to indicate their intention to exit either. That IMO was the worst communication of a "law change" ever - THE RULE NEVER BLOODY CHANGED!!!!! (all that changed was that you can now be TICKETED for doing it wrong - grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)

Anyhoo, back to politiks. I'm sure the "law" was changed under a Labour government. :D
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Re: What Will John Sell First?

Postby Wobbler on Wed 30/Nov/11 9:04am

Conners wrote:
happybaboon wrote:I find people who just don't indicate at all are a worse problem. Most of those who bother to indicate seem to do so correctly. Aside from a few who fail to indicate when exiting.

I've wasted several years of my life waiting for people who are entering roundabouts 180°opposite me, indicating right, but going straight through.... Motyherfuckers don't generally switch to indicate their intention to exit either. That IMO was the worst communication of a "law change" ever - THE RULE NEVER BLOODY CHANGED!!!!! (all that changed was that you can now be TICKETED for doing it wrong - grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)

Anyhoo, back to politiks. I'm sure the "law" was changed under a Labour government. :D


We need roundabout cameras like the red light ones and then fine/execute people depending on their actions
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