New Notebook

Postby happybaboon on Thu 27/Jan/05 11:26pm

I'm thinking about getting a notebook. Here's my minimum needs;

256mb DDR RAM (must be upgradable to 2GB)
1.4ghz processor with a minimum of 512kb L2 cache and 400mhz FSB (minimums). Ideally not a celeron.
60GB HDD
DVD+R/RW (willing to compromise to DVD ROM for a most excellent price though)
56k modem, LAN and 802.11b/g.
3x or more USB 2.0
1x or more firewire (compromiseable)
Under 3kgs (lighter = better) Bonus points for sub-2kgs.
S-video out
Fingerprint scanner.
Ideally, XP Pro
GOOD PRICE - not willing to go beyond $2k
No Dells, Compaqs or HPs.
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Postby propster on Thu 27/Jan/05 11:27pm

That would be a Mean NB
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Postby keeweenz on Thu 27/Jan/05 11:29pm

fingerprint scanner! I remember only Asus laptops having them at the time I picked up mine. Mine is about that spec, pitty its a Compaq and Im not selling it.

Should be about to find something for that price.
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Postby happybaboon on Thu 27/Jan/05 11:30pm

The most important spec is the fingerprint scanner :thumbsup:

Are iris scanners available yet? :eh:



In case it's not obvious - I'm asking for suggestions :)

Alarmingly, thats actually low-to-mid range for a notebook these days! :0
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Re: New Notebook

Postby jordy on Thu 27/Jan/05 11:31pm

happybaboon wrote:I'm thinking about getting a notebook. Here's my minimum needs;

256mb DDR RAM (must be upgradable to 2GB)
1.4ghz processor with a minimum of 512kb L2 cache and 400mhz FSB (minimums). Ideally not a celeron.
60GB HDD
DVD+R/RW (willing to compromise to DVD ROM for a most excellent price though)
56k modem, LAN and 802.11b/g.
3x or more USB 2.0
1x or more firewire (compromiseable)
Under 3kgs (lighter = better) Bonus points for sub-2kgs.
S-video out
Fingerprint scanner.
Ideally, XP Pro
GOOD PRICE - not willing to go beyond $2k
No Dells, Compaqs or HPs.


I would kill someone to afford a laptop that good.
Seriously.


Celeron's have 128k L2 cache, and slower FSB, at least the mobile ones do anyways. (I think)

Only useful for boring work/office type crap, would be well worth the money to get a proper Pentium M.

Edit: What I meant to say is lastest desktop Celerons have 400mhz FSB I think, but mobiles have even slower, might be 333 or even 266.
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Re: New Notebook

Postby happybaboon on Thu 27/Jan/05 11:35pm

jordy wrote:
happybaboon wrote:I'm thinking about getting a notebook. Here's my minimum needs;

256mb DDR RAM (must be upgradable to 2GB)
1.4ghz processor with a minimum of 512kb L2 cache and 400mhz FSB (minimums). Ideally not a celeron.
60GB HDD
DVD+R/RW (willing to compromise to DVD ROM for a most excellent price though)
56k modem, LAN and 802.11b/g.
3x or more USB 2.0
1x or more firewire (compromiseable)
Under 3kgs (lighter = better) Bonus points for sub-2kgs.
S-video out
Fingerprint scanner.
Ideally, XP Pro
GOOD PRICE - not willing to go beyond $2k
No Dells, Compaqs or HPs.


I would kill someone to afford a laptop that good.
Seriously.


Celeron's have 128k L2 cache, and slower FSB, at least the mobile ones do anyways. (I think)

Only useful for boring work/office type crap, would be well worth the money to get a proper Pentium M.


"Celeron" don't mean anything much these days - it's just a brand name for a low-spec intel chip. Typically these days what I said above is a "celeron" in a mobile chip - but seemingly it can mean just about anything. Those specs are the specs of a Pentium M 330 (Celeron) I think... So ehh :)
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Postby happybaboon on Thu 27/Jan/05 11:38pm

keeweenz wrote: pitty its a Compaq


Yeah, it is a pity :lol:

I opened a compaq notebook up the other day. The workmanship was so shoddy I'm surprised that the mainboard wasn't supported by blu-tac.
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Postby thecharmed01 on Thu 27/Jan/05 11:58pm

What about the Sony Vaio notebooks?
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Postby jordy on Fri 28/Jan/05 12:01am

Typically Celerons have been Pentium cores with less cache and a slower FSB, I didn't know that'd changed. :eh:
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Postby jordy on Fri 28/Jan/05 12:03am

thecharmed01 wrote:What about the Sony Vaio notebooks?


In my experience Sony Vaio's have been pretty flimsy and crappy.
Perhaps as bad as the Compaq happybaboon opened up the other day.
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Postby keeweenz on Fri 28/Jan/05 12:05am

happybaboon wrote:
keeweenz wrote: pitty its a Compaq


Yeah, it is a pity :lol:

I opened a compaq notebook up the other day. The workmanship was so shoddy I'm surprised that the mainboard wasn't supported by blu-tac.


yea, thats why im getting a desktop, for graphics type work. It will be my uni bitch from now on ;)

Yea, mine has had the motherboard replaced, under warrenty though.
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Postby happybaboon on Fri 28/Jan/05 12:22am

jordy wrote:Typically Celerons have been Pentium cores with less cache and a slower FSB, I didn't know that'd changed. :eh:


There's two types of Celeron for mobile applications (because coming up with a new brand name would be too hard) - Celeron, and Celeron M. Celeron has piddly little caches, and the higher core speed ones (2.2ghz plus) don't support low-volting aka Centrino stylez. Lower core speed ones have this capibility, but sadly some have tiny little FSB's.

Celeron M is quite neat - they have at least 512kb of L2 cache and FSB is 400mhz - all good. Hard to understand the names though :hmmm:

I'd be happy with a celeron m, but not a celeron :)

I actually don't know what the difference is between a celeron M and a Pentium 4 M - About all I can tell is that the Pentium 4 M costs more.

Then there's the "mobile pentium 4" chip! :D - These have 1mb of L2 cache and FSB 533.

Then there's the same chip as above, but supporting hyperthreading.

Then there's the Intel Pentium M, which is as far as I can tell the "Centrino" chip.

I think that the Centrino logo is pretty nifty myself.
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Postby jordy on Fri 28/Jan/05 12:33am

Yeah I knew that about the old mobile Celeron's.

I thought the Celeron M was just a low voltage Celeron with shit all cache and slow FSB, but turns out they're almost a Centrino chip.
Damn Intel, they make it so hard to keep up.
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Postby happybaboon on Fri 28/Jan/05 12:41am

I could be wrong - I took much of that info off the intel website the other day.
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Postby jordy on Fri 28/Jan/05 12:48am

Sounds all about true.
P4 M being the fastest, but using lots of power.
Orginal Celeron being the crappiest and slowest, a 2.4 getting 2.5 hours (just) bat life in my Dad's Acer lappy.

I personally think Pentium M would defineately be the best, I've heard they go almost as good as P4M (even though they're normally about 1/2 the mhz), and Celeron M's are so cheap, it's too good to be true.
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