As I am also aware of White Lightning's inferior skill level, I believe that even at less than walking pace he would have crashed into someone.
Whilst I am not trying to besmirch any given portion of the trail in question (and yes I even lent a hand twice). Having ridden said trail, I know that even with my vastly superior skills to those of White lightnings, I would struggle on certain corners to stop even at slow speeds. It also sounds like a pretty slow speed collision.




And wachy, i' ve seen your bum. You'd need some sort of industrial level spreader..............

SlackBoy wrote:As I am also aware of White Lightning's inferior skill level, I believe that even at less than walking pace he would have crashed into someone.
Whilst I am not trying to besmirch any given portion of the trail in question (and yes I even lent a hand twice). Having ridden said trail, I know that even with my vastly superior skills to those of White lightnings, I would struggle on certain corners to stop even at slow speeds. It also sounds like a pretty slow speed collision.




And wachy, i' ve seen your bum. You'd need some sort of industrial level spreader..............

dude, your a rockstar!

/me laughs his arse off and watching "lock, stock and two smoking barrels" on tv four. Slacky, i wanna go surfing with you tomorrow morning and shuttle makara the rest of the afternoon, dudde.... i so dig your style

SlackBoy wrote:As I am also aware of White Lightning's inferior skill level, I believe that even at less than walking pace he would have crashed into someone

true, I've seen him ride once - the dude can't even keep his bike straight

White Lightning wrote: "Like yourself I am also a regular visitor to Transient having used it both up and down at least twice a week as a training ride for the last few months, so I know that it is a busy track, in this time I have been involved in numerous collisions both going up and down, at low speed and high speed. Just last week while riding up the track I was crashed into twice by people coming down."


Is this for real? Numerous collisions on Transient in the last few months?! You are either the unluckiest mountain biker in Wellington, or you need to stick to one-way tracks.

In 27 years of excessive mountain biking I've had four head-on collisions:
1 - Head-on with a MTBer on the old Karori Reservoir Track. I was stationery by the time the guy hit me (and buckled his front wheel). No harsh words said.
2 - Head-on with a runner on Sally Alley before it was one-way. I was stationary (and may have giggled a little at the time). Runner frowned and moved on.
3 - Head-on with a trail bike (a real trail bike, not a MTB marketing mis-nomer) in Karapoti Gorge. The guy was wearing camo gear and had a very quiet two-stroke. I was travelling downhill a bit too quick. Apologies enchanged. I limped back to the car feeling stupid.
4 - Head-on with a MTBer on Missing Link (my next door neighbour, actually - what are the chances!). I was stationery by the time he made contact and toppled harmlessly over the side. I may have giggled. He apologised and we moved on.

Seriously, if you are regularly colliding with people on Transient you need to change your style or change your training track. If you don't, you will eventually hit a young child (and may face a level of parental roth that makes Sherlock look quite polite).

Reading this thread reminds me why so many walkers hate mountain bikers

Yep, reading all this makes me realise that building Transient has to be only the start. While going ahead and building Windmill made sense at the time, the sooner we develop an interesting fun downhill alternative to Transient the better. Once that has been built I guess an assessment can be made of its effect on downhill traffic and whether that is enough to keep most people happy most of the time.

While I agree in principal- I believe it would need to be clearly marked mtb only? Would the council buy that?

Simonk wrote:White Lightning wrote: "Like yourself I am also a regular visitor to Transient having used it both up and down at least twice a week as a training ride for the last few months, so I know that it is a busy track, in this time I have been involved in numerous collisions both going up and down, at low speed and high speed. Just last week while riding up the track I was crashed into twice by people coming down."


Is this for real? Numerous collisions on Transient in the last few months?! You are either the unluckiest mountain biker in Wellington, or you need to stick to one-way tracks.

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Seriously, if you are regularly colliding with people on Transient you need to change your style or change your training track. If you don't, you will eventually hit a young child (and may face a level of parental roth that makes Sherlock look quite polite).

Reading this thread reminds me why so many walkers hate mountain bikers

I am with Simon on this, if you are colliding that often you need help.

Very true.. I usually only ride this track in the wet now.

way_downsouth wrote:

Simonk wrote:White Lightning wrote: "Like yourself I am also a regular visitor to Transient having used it both up and down at least twice a week as a training ride for the last few months, so I know that it is a busy track, in this time I have been involved in numerous collisions both going up and down, at low speed and high speed. Just last week while riding up the track I was crashed into twice by people coming down."


Is this for real? Numerous collisions on Transient in the last few months?! You are either the unluckiest mountain biker in Wellington, or you need to stick to one-way tracks.

....

Seriously, if you are regularly colliding with people on Transient you need to change your style or change your training track. If you don't, you will eventually hit a young child (and may face a level of parental roth that makes Sherlock look quite polite).

Reading this thread reminds me why so many walkers hate mountain bikers

I am with Simon on this, if you are colliding that often you need help.

But its never his fault. He said so.

there are degrees of crashing aren't there.

I wonder whether a track being built for two-way traffic near the city needs to be at least 1.5x wider than transient - lose heaps of style, but gain some practicality. Are there functional examples elsewhere we can learn from?

Simonk wrote:White Lightning wrote: "Like yourself I am also a regular visitor to Transient having used it both up and down at least twice a week as a training ride for the last few months, so I know that it is a busy track, in this time I have been involved in numerous collisions both going up and down, at low speed and high speed. Just last week while riding up the track I was crashed into twice by people coming down."


Is this for real? Numerous collisions on Transient in the last few months?! You are either the unluckiest mountain biker in Wellington, or you need to stick to one-way tracks.

Sounds entirely possible to me, if riding the track regularly at peak times.