Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby Colin on Tue 2/Aug/11 3:27pm

Agreed pace car intervention can bugger up a race. Or sometimes reinvigorate depending on whether you are rooting for the car that is bought back into the battle or the one that loses the gap it had established.

Better policing of yellow and waved yellow flags would help. With a dozen timing loops around the track and in-car notification from race control to the lights in front of the driver it is not hard to measure what drivers are not slowing down sufficiently. Set an expectation and police to it. It will only take a couple of drive throughs to change the current “I won’t try a pacing maneuver, but I’m not going to slow down any” behavior.

Not F1, but the was a NZV8 race down at Timaru over the summer where a car had a massive failure, dumped oil and went directly to megasmash in the tyre wall. Despite WAVED YELLOWS, cars were still spearing off on the oil and into the marshals trying to deal with the firey stuff and a out of shape driver TWO LAPS LATER. I’m not aware of any penalties being handed out. Txt’ed Bob McMurray when he was talking on Radio Sport a day or two later. He was all ‘yeah, well drivers don’t really slow down because they don’t want to lose touch with the car infront’.

Pace cars will continue to be required until measures are taken to make waved yellows actually mean something. Mind you, some marshals should really be let anywhere near a race track, even on a day when there is no racing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6URo_2XMKHE

Hamilton had already spun and it was raining. And he can’t drive slicks in the wet like Button. Inters were the right choice.

I lol’ed at this
"I made a big mistake," Hamilton admitted. "My left front tyre was pretty worn so I went a bit wide at the chicane and spun, which is very, very rare.

Right up there with I always finish my sets.
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby pb on Tue 2/Aug/11 3:39pm

Perhaps race control should be able to enable the pit lane limiter remotely. Since all the cars would then be doing identical speed, gaps would be preserved but car speed would be reduced. Might need some form of slow increase when the limit is removed or else there will be plenty of spins as the limiter is released on cars mid-corner with the throttle wide open.
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby pedalingkiwi on Tue 2/Aug/11 7:29pm

Conners wrote:Does anyone else wonder if DC and Brundle are watching the same footage? For a good 3-4 laps prior to the rain there was clearly signes of moisture on the cameras, but it was such a MASSIVE surprise to those two when the rain started? Sure, they will be watching out the window occasionally instead of watching the monitors - but still. I guess nobody can be as perfect as me all the time.


I sometimes wonder why they are not seeing what I'm seeing - eg; near the end Webber following Hamilton onto the straight, he opens DRS, the car gets the wiggles, closes flap, gets straightened up, then opens it again - Coultard thinks it is half way down the straight before it opened - he missed the first critical opening of DRS !! (or I could be wrong :( and there was a mechanical / electrical issue with his DRS)

I'm like you Connors - give me the job and it'd be perfect commentary all the time :p
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby Dazzle on Tue 2/Aug/11 11:35pm

DC and Brundle also watch the same pitlane feed the teams get (yellow sector!), watch out their window to try and follow cars and gaps that are not appearing in the TV feed, and are getting messages we can't hear from their producers.

They have gotten a lot better since the start of the season, but I do wish they would use a more traditional division of roles between play-by-play and color commentator.
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby dented on Wed 3/Aug/11 7:12am

pedalingkiwi wrote: eg; near the end Webber following Hamilton onto the straight, he opens DRS, the car gets the wiggles, closes flap, gets straightened up, then opens it again - Coultard thinks it is half way down the straight before it opened - he missed the first critical opening of DRS !! (or I could be wrong :( and there was a mechanical / electrical issue with his DRS)

You're not wrong, I saw that too
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby Spyder on Sun 7/Aug/11 8:27pm

:thumbsup: Seb Vettel on Top Gear. Seems like a bloody decent bloke and not afraid to take the piss or have it taken. Quite a quick steerer too. Now if only we could arrange to get him into that Ferrari...
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby Conners on Sun 7/Aug/11 9:51pm

Just watched that - he was hilarious!
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby neels on Thu 2nd Feb 6:13pm

So a few changes for the new year,

Renault becomes Lotus
Lotus becomes Caterham
Virgin becomes Marussia

Sutil, Petrov, Heidfeld, Alguersuari, Buemi, Barrichello, d'Ambrosio, Liuzzi eyeing up the vacant seat at HRT beside the demoted De La Rosa.....well, probably not Rubens....

and Caterham build a car with a realllllly ugly nose....
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby pb on Thu 2nd Feb 8:24pm

That ugly nose is likely to be on most of this years cars thanks to the new lowered nose regulations.
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby neels on Thu 2nd Feb 8:38pm

pb wrote:That ugly nose is likely to be on most of this years cars thanks to the new lowered nose regulations.

Well McLaren can do it, what's wrong with the rest of them, holy crap the front wings have got complex though.

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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby Flyboy on Fri 3rd Feb 7:49am

pb wrote:That ugly nose is likely to be on most of this years cars thanks to the new lowered nose regulations.

Yeah thank god McLaren still know how to build a pretty car. Jensen Button made a remark to that end at the reveal that made me lol.

I'm looking forward to seeing Kimi back this year - I want to see how well he does. Hopefully he makes a better comeback than Schuey did.

Edit: god-dang that Caterham is ugly :crazy:
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby RussS on Sat 10th Mar 11:59am

Vettel is gonna have some competition this year I think. Kimi is back and has been near the front of the leaderboard over all four days with his team mate Grosjean topping the charts a couple days in a row. Interesting that Vettel never got out of the 1:23 bracket while the Lotus-Renaults were constantly in the 1:22 range .... gonna be fun to see how things pan out.
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby Fraser on Sat 10th Mar 7:19pm

Kimi is on Topgear this Sunday running over the setup of the 2012 car and other technical details.
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby Colin on Sat 10th Mar 10:48pm

Lotus looked good, but I think they did more soft tyre low fuel glory laps than others in the top four.

Red Bull and McLaren dropped a truck load of new parts on their cars for the last two days and looked got over long runs.

I doubt Ferrari will show up with the instant solution to their problems that McLaren bought to Melbourne last year.

Red Bull, McLaren, Lotus, Mercedes, Ferrari, Force India, Red Bull II , Sauber, Williams, Caterham, HRT, Marussia. At the start of the season.

By season end Ferrari will be 3rd quickest, Mercedes 4th and Lotus 5th, but the improvement will be too late to challenge for the championships.

Vettel to beat Webber
Button to beat Hamilton
Alonso to beat fresh air, Massa nowhere
Kimi to beat Grosjean, but not by much
Rosberg ahead of Schumi
Di Resta v Hulkenberg - Di Resta if I had to pick
Ricciardo to get up over Vergne

Team mate wars for the rest will depend on who has fewer breakdowns or prangs

Forecasters are showing showers / rain next week-end. I'm going to get wet.
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Re: The Formula One Thread

Postby Flyboy on Fri 16th Mar 12:07pm

Only a few hours to go; weather could make things tricky for today's practise but it looks fine for the rest of the weekend.
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