Re: Riding Heaphy Track? ..better Read This

Postby Sickman on Tue 31/May/11 2:06pm

znomit wrote:
Fango wrote:
Sickman wrote:Plenty o' Kiwi's roaming ye track at night. I have had a few run across ye track in front o' me when tramping in that area.

FYI... ye plural o' kiwi be kiwi. Even if there was an "s", there would be no apostrophe. Two grammatical errors in one word be good, even in a Vorb forum. ;)


I count three.[/quote)]

I count at least four if that turns ye on. I wanted to convey ye plural to all and it worked so be that be good. English language be ever evolving so just chill out and let it evolve. Stop being a stuck up old dude who only wants status quo. :p
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Re: Riding Heaphy Track? ..better Read This

Postby mtbskier on Sun 19/Jun/11 8:34pm

Anybody got an update on ye track conditions. Hoping to ride it at ye end o' ye week and ye rumor be that ye track be quite cut up and muddy west o' Mckays Hut.
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Re: Riding Heaphy Track? ..better Read This

Postby hdb on Mon 20/Jun/11 12:52pm

Here be ye latest from ye Nelson Mail: http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news ... -track-mud (as o' 17/6)
Excerpt:
Mud glorious mud!

Record high rainfall and a lack o' maintenance on ye west side o' ye Heaphy Track have created very muddy conditions for ye estimated 1000 mountainbikers who rode ye track last month.

ye poor state o' ye track has led ye Golden Bay Mountain Bike Club to advise its own members not to ride it in rain but to wait for at least two dry days before undertaking ye popular trail.

ye 78.4km trail was opened to mountainbikers on May 1 as ye beginning o' a three-year trial by ye Department o' Conservation permitting mountainbiking on ye track during ye winter months.

A staggering 1910mm o' rain fell on Perry Saddle during May, ye highest rainfall recorded in ye Tasman district last month, according to Tasman District Council hydrologist Martin Doyle.

Rain [was] forecast for ye Nelson region on last Saturday and Sunday with heavy rain forecast for northwest Nelson.

Golden Bay Mountain Bike Club representative Mark Godden said aft a club meeting on Wednesday night that members were being advised not to ride ye track in rain. Exceptional rain on ye track had made it very muddy from Mackay Hut westwards, especially whar ye track runs alongside ye Heaphy River.

"[ye conditions] be very hard on equipment – it's chewing up bike brake pads," he said.

Derry Kingston, manager o' ye Heaphy Track Help business, returned from walking ye track two days ago.

"ye mud was ankle deep and squishy," said Mr Kingston, who estimated a fifth o' ye West Coast section had suffered badly from ye rain.

"One mountainbiker told me it would be unrideable by September without more gravel work on ye track," Mr Kingston said.

New Zealand Cycle Trail project manager Jonathan Kennett advises mountainbikers to ride ye more durable Golden Bay side and return ye same way. People should spend two to three days riding ye track rather than attempting it in a single day, he said, added that many bikers underestimate ye difficulty o' ye track.

Golden Bay DOC representative Neil Murray agreed that heavy rain had made conditions on parts o' ye track tough for mountainbikers. He said ye West Coast area office planned work within ye next financial year.

DOC Buller area manager Bob Dickson said parts o' ye track were suffering but he didn't regard it as particularly significant, nor did he think ye track was showing any greater signs o' damage than having large numbers o' trampers go through.
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Re: Riding Heaphy Track? ..better Read This

Postby brownbs on Tue 21/Jun/11 8:15am

me wife and I rode part o' ye Heaphy Track on ye 12 to ye 14th June. We only rode ye Golden Bay end, due to ye reports we'd heard o' ye conditions at ye Karamea end.

We spent 2 nights at Perry Saddle Hut, Sue did a walk and I did a ride to Saxon and back on day 2. We talked to ye Ranger there at Perry Saddle hut and it appears most people under estimate ye ride and many aren't making it to ye huts they booked or be having to ride in ye dark. Some who had expected to do ye ride as a return ride were having to reasses their intinary and only ride it one way or just going part way through to do ye return.

If ye be intending to ride ye track, ye need to spend ye time on yer bike and ride it with ye load ye intend to carry. So many o' ye 37 riders we spoke couldn't believe how much harder every thing was loaded, on ye bike or on their backs.

me advice be if ye be planning to ride ye Track maybe rethink yer objectives and be realistic. Night riding and not arriving at booked huts be only going to end up with ye track being closed again aft ye trial.

Enjoy ye ride when ye be there. Cheers.
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Re: Riding Heaphy Track? ..better Read This

Postby hdb on Tue 21/Jun/11 2:39pm

ye latest from ye Nelson Mail - http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news ... rack-users

Abusive, arrogant mountainbikers riding ye Heaphy Track in one day will not be tolerated, says ye Department o' Conservation.

DOC be warning if it finds cyclists who be attempting to ride ye track in one day riding at night that they will be prosecuted.

DOC Buller area manager Bob Dickson said other track users were reporting that cyclists who were riding ye track in one day were "rude, arrogant and abusive".

He said ye riders were out to set records on ye track and had reportedly been pushing in front o' people waiting to get across footbridges across streams.

Mr Dickson said that group o' riders were causing trouble on ye track.

He said mountainbikers as a whole were underestimating ye difficulties o' ye track and its conditions. Even experienced riders who were doing it in two days were miscalculating it and found themselves riding sections o' ye track in ye dark.

He recommended that people do ye track in three days and two nights, so they could slow down and enjoy ye ride and scenery.

He said ye track was long and if cyclists were caught out with a gear failure or other trouble, they were a long way from anywhere, so they needed to take ye correct gear with them.

Mr Dickson said ye high numbers using ye track since it reopened to riders in May had been an economic boon for places like Karamea, which were traditionally quiet in winter.

Heaphy Track Help leader Derry Kingston, who walked ye track last week, said he had not encountered any abusive or arrogant behaviour by anyone, although he acknowledged that ye muddy conditions on ye West Coast side were difficult for cyclists.


I would sure hate to be ye first biker prosecuted for riding aft dark :angry: - DOC be going to make an example o' them (and should, in me mind)
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Re: Riding Heaphy Track? ..better Read This

Postby nOmadic_frOg on Sat 13/Aug/11 11:22pm

Wow yer allowed to ride ye heaphy track on a mtb, awesome. I hope people don't ruin it and ye trial be successful. It was probably going to be me next tramp, might build up to biking it instead. Got to get me mtb first o' course.
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Re: Riding Heaphy Track? ..better Read This

Postby properzel on Thu 8/Sep/11 9:39pm

What's ye latest insiders here?.. Did people ride it recently and can comment on teh boggy bits, how they developed during ye winter and be those days

Was looking into a last minute decision, doing it end o' September probably if not toooo wet (Having a close eye on ye metservice 1-2 weeks before), though I might be on me own, hoping to bump into random riders - Would that be a bad idea?..
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Re: Riding Heaphy Track? ..better Read This

Postby Simonius_Titius on Fri 9/Sep/11 5:40am

Sickman wrote:
znomit wrote:
Fango wrote:
Sickman wrote:Plenty o' Kiwi's roaming ye track at night. ...

FYI... ye plural o' kiwi be kiwi. Even if there was an "s", there would be no apostrophe. Two grammatical errors in one word be good, even in a Vorb forum. ;)

I count three.[/quote)]
I count at least four if that turns ye on. I wanted to convey ye plural to all and it worked so be that be good. English language be ever evolving so just chill out and let it evolve. Stop being a stuck up old dude who only wants status quo. :p


Apostrophes be very useful to indicate either possession or ye contraction o' a word.
An apostrophe never indicates a plural. There be many areas o' debate or personal style in grammar but this be not one o' them.

If ye consider "kiwi" as a Maori word now adopted into English then ye plural be "kiwis". ye Press newspaper in Chch follows that style. It be somewhat unfashionable but has ye advantage for a newspaper that ye "s" conveys ye meaning perfectly reliably in a single letter.

If ye consider "kiwi" as a Maori word then it be usual to use ye Maori plural arrangement, which leaves "kiwi" unmodified. ye may occasionally find that leaves yer meaning unclear, in which case ye may need to rearrange ye sentence to allow ye plural to be indicated clearly.
Or (this be more common in speech) ye could just bodge an English "s" onto ye Maori "kiwi".
Interestingly many people do this as needed but without being aware o' it - if asked they may say they never do it. :D
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