To be perfectly honest I really don't care if it's good or bad law. What I really care about is being able to flush the toilet without it ending up in the avon, drink some water that doesn't taste like a pool, drive down the street without dodging the holes, bumps and cracks and live in a house in which the doors open and close and where you can't look through the walls. If the new law assists in getting us some basic services back and a city started towards some reconstruction, then I am all for it. I am not sure Gerry is the best option, but it's better than nothing and nothing is what we have now.

Slim wrote:To be perfectly honest I really don't care if it's good or bad law. What I really care about is being able to flush the toilet without it ending up in the avon, drink some water that doesn't taste like a pool, drive down the street without dodging the holes, bumps and cracks and live in a house in which the doors open and close and where you can't look through the walls. If the new law assists in getting us some basic services back and a city started towards some reconstruction, then I am all for it. I am not sure Gerry is the best option, but it's better than nothing and nothing is what we have now.

Not wanting to sound harsh but those issues, shitty as they are for you, don't justify the effect that the law could easily have on ALL of us.

And ALL of us are going to be affected by this quake for a long time to come whether it's living it for you, or paying for it for the rest of us...

Don't worry, I'm paying my share too!

You can have your say on the Canterbury recovery in November, I the mean time I hope someone fixes the power lines so I can stay warmish this winter

They've already completed the official portrait of King Gerry, as commissioned by the CER bill

thorg wrote:I think we need to stand back and cautiously elect a bunch of people representative of the community and all its diverse characters to decide on such crucial matters. Such a group should be called the council of elders, but I'll just shorten it to council - now having a such a group with conflicting areas of concern/interest would shirly allow for a fast and rapid rebuild of the city

I think we should outsource the whole rebuilding thing to China. Those guys know how to build things. They don't have any democracy, but they've built plenty of kick ass cities, airports, rail networks etc. They used to all be peasants a few short decades ago and now they've got hundreds of millions of educated rich people. And even the greenies have to admit they're leading the world in developing the next generation of renewable based technologies (ie, thorium salt reactors). Lets face it, democracy isn't really getting this country anywhere that isn't dumb and bankrupt, it's time for a new approach.

j2hyde wrote: but they've built plenty of kick ass cities, airports, rail networks etc. They used to all be peasants a few short decades ago and now they've got hundreds of millions of educated rich people. And even the greenies have to admit they're leading the world in developing the next generation of renewable based technologies (ie, thorium salt reactors). Lets face it, democracy isn't really getting this country anywhere that isn't dumb and bankrupt, it's time for a new approach.

only at the expense of human rights, loss of heritage, loss of soul, heinous environmental pollution, utter overpopulation, loss of biodiversity.

not really such a big price to pay... is it?

swtchbckr wrote:

j2hyde wrote: but they've built plenty of kick ass cities, airports, rail networks etc. They used to all be peasants a few short decades ago and now they've got hundreds of millions of educated rich people. And even the greenies have to admit they're leading the world in developing the next generation of renewable based technologies (ie, thorium salt reactors). Lets face it, democracy isn't really getting this country anywhere that isn't dumb and bankrupt, it's time for a new approach.

only at the expense of human rights, loss of heritage, loss of soul, heinous environmental pollution, utter overpopulation, loss of biodiversity.

but they are one of the few ( if not only) that have a legislative approach to overpopulation

philstar wrote:

swtchbckr wrote:

j2hyde wrote: but they've built plenty of kick ass cities, airports, rail networks etc. They used to all be peasants a few short decades ago and now they've got hundreds of millions of educated rich people. And even the greenies have to admit they're leading the world in developing the next generation of renewable based technologies (ie, thorium salt reactors). Lets face it, democracy isn't really getting this country anywhere that isn't dumb and bankrupt, it's time for a new approach.

only at the expense of human rights, loss of heritage, loss of soul, heinous environmental pollution, utter overpopulation, loss of biodiversity.

but they are one of the few ( if not only) that have a legislative approach to overpopulation

true dat. at the price of female infanticide.

mind you. that gives you a severely male skewed population, good worker drones for building your grand plans... lets the women be more picky about the husband they take, which in turn *may* increase species fitness, from and evolutionary pov

swtchbckr wrote:

slumdog wrote:As for the areas they are saying no one can build on again, perfect opportunity to regenerate these areas into lush native forest again, resplendent with MTB trails through the kauri kahikatea trees, cycling to tui bellbird song etc etc..

fixxored.
Kauri trees never grew this far south, and tui's havent been around since the 1960's (we'd like to get them back one day, and they've been released at Hinewai (Banks Pen), but it'll be some time before they're back in chch).

/pedantism

de pedantism

we had a kauri growing in our front yard in beckenham