Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby el_booto on Thu 13th Jul 11:12pm

AgrAde wrote:Yeah, I like the idea but it just doesn't work with "normal" q-factor cranks (for me, with flat pedals and big Impact shoes).

I'd make you one, any geo you want, but I don't think you'd like the price, the wait, or the complete lack of confidence I'd have in the final product :p


or the fact i'll have to jump headfirst into all the standards i've so far avoided like the plague :cry:
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby AgrAde on Thu 13th Jul 11:30pm

It's all about the girth and stiffness these days :thumbsup:
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby Dougal on Fri 14th Jul 11:25am

AgrAde wrote:This is the future. You saw it here first folks.

:paranoid:

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That's interesting. Presume you're going to have another roller for the slack side of the chain?

How's the leverage ratios plot out? Looks falling rate?
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby AgrAde on Fri 14th Jul 11:39am

Yeah, needs a lower guide otherwise the chain growth is pretty high.

And yeah you're right, quite happy with the lev ratio.
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby Conners on Fri 14th Jul 12:28pm

Your Mattoc seems to have the brace on the wrong side?
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby Dougal on Fri 14th Jul 12:38pm

You'll need some spokes too. They're not that hard to model. 4 seed spokes and then the rest pattern around.

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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby AgrAde on Fri 14th Jul 12:50pm

Fork/wheels/shock were only made for sorting clearance etc which is why they're haggard. Does look weird on the half-pretty render though.
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby michael on Fri 14th Jul 1:32pm

AgrAde wrote:This is the future. You saw it here first folks.

:paranoid:

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Sorry to be "that guy", but wouldn't that design be a prime candidate for a gearbox?
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby AgrAde on Fri 14th Jul 1:35pm

Yep. Also prime for a standard drivetrain :thumbsup:
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby mudguard on Fri 14th Jul 6:04pm

I think Hope's HB211 is pretty much my dream bike.
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby AgrAde on Fri 14th Jul 6:34pm

I'd like it if they used standards. I don't like proprietary hubs/brakes/bbs/chainguides/cassettes.


Dougal wrote:That's interesting.

I'm taking this as one of the better compliments I've had on it so far.
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby Dougal on Mon 17th Jul 1:09pm

AgrAde wrote:
Dougal wrote:That's interesting.

I'm taking this as one of the better compliments I've had on it so far.


Unlike most of the concepts I see it looks structurally planned out and could actually work. I've seen some shockers.

I would however design a tube prototype to weld up from exhaust tube before jumping to plastic. You're guaranteed to find things you'd rather do differently.
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby AgrAde on Mon 17th Jul 7:13pm

That's what I presumed your reaction was by that comment. I agree, I've seen some hilarious things while researching for this project.

Yeah, the math checks out. It should ride fine and be pretty bombproof as long as I can learn enough about carbon to put it together half decently. If my experience and learnings have correctly built the theory in my head, and theory matches reality through the calcs, then the performance will be exceptional and better than anything around (for me, with the way I like bikes to ride). Of course we have yet to find out if this is the case :D

Of course the first go isn't going to be perfect, geometry will be interesting because there's very few high pivot trail bikes around to get a good idea of how they're balanced. I learned a lot from riding the Craftworks ENR. But it's as much to learn about carbon as it is to learn about bike design and you can only learn by trying, so even if this frame is an uncomfortable noodle that pedals shit I'll come away from it better off.
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby slidecontrol on Mon 17th Jul 8:47pm

I suspect the exhaust tube prototype will tell you much the same at a fraction of the cost of plastic version of the same thing.
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Re: New Stuff Thread....

Postby Conners on Mon 17th Jul 9:27pm

AgrAde wrote:so even if this frame is an uncomfortable noodle that pedals shit I'll come away from it better off.

Just make sure you put loads and loads of carbon and resin around the head tube. You can afford for anything else to let go, but chances of coming out of a head tube failure as 'better off' are not so high. :butbut: :crazy:
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