skint wrote:

Tama wrote:Is there anyway for an ex-Wellingtonian who often walked his bike through this link to register their support for this initiative if they currently live somewhere else?

Tourism Resource Consultants are keen to get any feedback they can, so contact Jimmy Young jimmy@trcnz.com/ph 4 4723 114

What a coincidenc, here are my thoughts on this issue

http://wellingtonista.com/some-thoughts ... ic-gardens

You have to wade pas the doggy centric stuff first.

jo wrote:However, there is a "high road", and a "low road" so separation would be fairly easy to do.

What routes do you mean exactly?

adam77 wrote:

jo wrote:However, there is a "high road", and a "low road" so separation would be fairly easy to do.

What routes do you mean exactly?

Coming from salamanca, up the hill, the "road" goes straight ahead to the scout hall. At the scout hall there is a merging of paths, most pedestrians take the left hand path to the viewing area by the cable car.
However, another path leads from the second building on the right (not metservice, the next one), up past the big gun, and then leads through onto an another path which comes out near the back of the cable car museum. This path is less heavily patronised by walkers, and would keep cyclists out of the main user conflict areas. Its not ideal as it is, as unfortunately the back of the cable car museum is marked "no bikes" as well, and there are a set of steps presently there to negotiate.
Hopefully this is clear. I can picture it in my head.

llew wrote:What a coincidenc, here are my thoughts on this issue

http://wellingtonista.com/some-thoughts ... ic-gardens

You have to wade pas the doggy centric stuff first.

No reasonable cyclist will disagree with your comments - a shame that you resort to the worn out lycra comments - it doesn't create an air of objectivity, it suggests there are other issues here. I get equally annoyed at inconsiderate cyclists - and I am a cyclist, so I have an interest in our collective reputation. If the choice is between negotiating Bowen Street with its homocidal bus drivers and the path between Salamanca Road and the Cable car, it is no wonder many cyclists choose the latter.

bump, and piss... I've had something come up...

At most a dozen (mainly commuters) turned up to talk with the chaps (Dave and Jimmy) from TRC. They are an independent body contracted by the council to resolve the situation. Interestingly enough no gardens staff wanted to be present, but from all accounts seem to be happy to support a working solution to this situation. In the interim please respect their wishes as they are afterall the "guardians" of the park and any solution to this issue will work better with their assistance.
Lots of good discussion about the positives and negatives of the different routes that could be viable to sort the situation out. Some people have clearly been thinking long and (maybe too) hard about this with a range of "quick" fix and also long term solutions ! Remember that the council has had x thousands of dollars cut from their "tracks" budget over the last year so (my personal) opinion is that some of the solutions were a bit over the top. Notably (probably missed something here)
Using the service lane at the back of the cable car museum and avoiding the main pedestrian area at the entrance to the actual tram...Care must be taken around 07:30-8 when workers loading vehicles.
A long term track out via carter observatory but this has the drawback of increased pedestrian usage.
Widening the east path to be shared?
Shared path favoured over exclusive cycle lane...
Using the high path (sorting out the steps by having a winding track up the hill) and hooking into the road (care required here, the decent at the top of the road is an issue).
Some sort of boardwalk (spendie)

The council (notably Andy Foster and Celia Wade-Brown) seem very keen to get this resolved, next step TRC are reporting back to the council by Tuesday next week.

Had to have a chuckle when at least 2-3 cyclists wobbled their way past us when we were discussing the options....

Cyclists are finally allowed to ride between the cable car & the Scout Hall - there's a green line now painted on the path leading from the driveway to the left of the Cable Car Museum, heading up a new ramp (was steps until very recently) to the upper path that leads towards the observatory, then onto the driveway that drops down to the Scout Hall and out towards Salamanca Rd.

The line seems to indicate that we keep left on the path and then keep right on the driveway from near the observatory, down past the Scout Hall and out towards Salamanca Rd (I assume for better visibility for any approaching vehicles?)

The old "no cycling" signs painted on the path are still there, but the gardeners I spoke to this morning said that it is definitely now a cycle path and it is definitely now open

thats great news p!

A good sensible outcome - well done to all involved.

Yuss! I'm gonna go ride it right now.

Yup, it works.

I don't think it's obvious to pedestrians that it's a bike lane (got a few funny looks), but not a problem if you go slow

Also, wasn't obvious to me if you're meant to ride inside the green line or on it. Bit narrow to ride inside for mountain bikes, but again not a problem.

Cool - might just have to carry the roadie up plimmers steps and take the punishment up everton terrace just to ride it on my way home (the long way)...the things you do....

why don't you ride up Willis buslane, then round into Victoria /R into Manners and up Boulcott, then up Everton ?

tylersdad wrote:why don't you ride up Willis buslane, then round into Victoria /R into Manners and up Boulcott, then up Everton ?

Because the cops will ping you for riding in the bus lane there (they may have lost that sign now tho, so the point might be moot, but you used to NOT be allowed to ride that bus lane, or the one in lambton between panama st and hunter st)