Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby kiwi_zg on Thu 18/Feb/10 2:11pm

cooper770 wrote:
znomit wrote:
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j2hyde wrote:I want to know why people get so uppity about what is probably the most benign fishing program around (Japanese whaling) when almost every other form of fishing is vastly more damaging to fish stocks? :eh:


Because whales are sexy.


And tuna is tasty


I'd agree if it tasted like chicken.....


What does Krill taste like? :hmmm:
Has anyone tried it?

Don't they look kinda like shrimp?
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby Fraser on Fri 19/Feb/10 6:56am

As we don't really know why whales strand themselves anyway, using the ones that wash up or strand themselves would be a bit like only doing autopsies on people who die at home :sleeping:

Oh and it is Nigga.. you are probably thinking of the National Indian Gaming Association instead.
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby j2hyde on Fri 19/Feb/10 10:35am

philstar wrote:not in Australia its not, they can prosecute people for whaling out side of Australian waters ( if any of the whalers set foot in Australia)


Incorrect. Outside Aust waters = no jurisdiction.
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby philstar on Fri 19/Feb/10 3:53pm

j2hyde wrote:
philstar wrote:not in Australia its not, they can prosecute people for whaling out side of Australian waters ( if any of the whalers set foot in Australia)


Incorrect. Outside Aust waters = no jurisdiction.


they can have a law that governs what people do out side there territory, they have one that allows people to be prosecuted for kiddy sex trips to Bangkok, and they have another that allows people to be prosecuted for whaling.

jurisdiction = (law) the right and power to interpret and apply the law. the right (An abstract idea of that which is due to a person or governmental body by law or tradition or nature) can be given by law, that leave power which they have "if any of the whalers set foot in Australia" .
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby CrustyMTB on Fri 19/Feb/10 9:20pm

philstar wrote:
j2hyde wrote:
philstar wrote:not in Australia its not, they can prosecute people for whaling out side of Australian waters ( if any of the whalers set foot in Australia)


Incorrect. Outside Aust waters = no jurisdiction.


they can have a law that governs what people do out side there territory, they have one that allows people to be prosecuted for kiddy sex trips to Bangkok, and they have another that allows people to be prosecuted for whaling.

jurisdiction = (law) the right and power to interpret and apply the law. the right (An abstract idea of that which is due to a person or governmental body by law or tradition or nature) can be given by law, that leave power which they have "if any of the whalers set foot in Australia" .
Slightly more complicated especially in a common law country like Aussie, there's authority to suggest that the act that's being sanctioned against needs to have an effect in the jurisdiction, what constitutes an effect is in disagreement.

Most extra-territorial laws (like our genocide act whadevaitscalled) need to have an international law component, that's what the Aussies are talking about legal action wise, even then it's dubious and will probably fail in the ICJ.

Nick_K wrote:Because whales are sexy.
No, girls who like whales are sexy :satan:
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby E Dogg Capizzle on Fri 19/Feb/10 9:26pm

I would eat a whale. Maybe two. :)
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby onyabike on Fri 19/Feb/10 11:02pm

in the days of damage.
whale.gif
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby E Dogg Capizzle on Fri 19/Feb/10 11:07pm

Whales are the rats of the seas. EXTERMINATE!!!
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby CrustyMTB on Sat 20/Feb/10 8:16pm

E Dogg Capizzle wrote:Whales are the rats of the seas. EXTERMINATE!!!
Surely the pigs of the sea? Whale bacon anyone? mnomnomnomnomnomnom.
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby onyabike on Sat 27/Feb/10 9:57am

zephyrheaven wrote:http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/3376987/Whale-to-stay-after-trainers-death

ha ha, way too funny


why anyone would put their head anywhere near a gob that size defies good sense.
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby Tugboat on Sat 27/Feb/10 12:42pm

CrustyMTB wrote:Also Pete Bethune is a Pirate, and stands a real chance of getting torn up by the Japanese legal system, :crazy: If this was a publicity stunt it may well backfire in a massive clusterfucking fashion.


He's not a pirate in the eyes of international maritime law in this opinion...
http://www.sail-world.com/Cruising/inte ... -law/66621

It could (and should) be the Japs that are headed for the reaming.
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby Fraser on Mon 1/Mar/10 7:54am

It just seems they have drifted away from the big picture of killing a species to extintion which was addressed 20 years ago by people doing genuine stuff with a passion. Now it's rich people donating 3 millon dollar boats to harrass a couple of fishing boats and then drag it through the lawyers.
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby cooper770 on Mon 1/Mar/10 11:25am

Fraser wrote:It just seems they have drifted away from the big picture of killing a species to extintion which was addressed 20 years ago by people doing genuine stuff with a passion. Now it's rich people donating 3 millon dollar boats to harrass a couple of fishing boats and then drag it through the lawyers.



yea,pretty much how the basic concept of how people protesting works....benefactors provide resources to assist on the continuation of actions to highlight what they consider to be wrong....

certainly protest actions happened 20+ years ago, but it didn't make the issue go away...

same as we still have racism in the world yet South Africa no longer has national policy to enforce it......so does that mean we did our job back in the 80's protesting the regime? and we should all now stop protesting or being concerned about racism?
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Re: Kiwi 'pirate' Boards Floating Cetacean Abattoir

Postby Fraser on Fri 12/Mar/10 5:56pm

That wasn't part of the plan was it :D Phoned the lawyers who said "deliver a letter in person saying he has to take you to the nearest port, then he will sail to NZ and we will take it from there!"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/3441287/Kiwi-anti-whaling-activist-arrested-in-Japan

Instead the japs have taken him to Japan and arrested him
http://nelsonhaha.com/
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