Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby SaturnReturn on Wed 28/Jul/10 7:04pm

Here's hoping! Although they might wanna think twice about a full black kit in those hot european summers :p

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=10661897
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Re: Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby Fergie on Wed 28/Jul/10 7:28pm

How exciting, this will be something extra for our young Junior cyclists to aspire to!
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Postby way_downsouth on Wed 28/Jul/10 7:50pm

Awesome news. Loving that NZ is slowly building up teams, especially with big goals like this.

I hope that everyone does what they can to support them!
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Postby MTBChick on Wed 28/Jul/10 7:55pm

Fantastic. How many teams do we have now?
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Postby will_b on Wed 28/Jul/10 8:00pm

Yeah awesome news, not sure on the name though. That may change when a mega major sponsor comes on board who wants exposure in the US and Europe to millions of punters who may decide NZ is a friendly destination come holiday time :thumbsup:
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Postby Oli on Wed 28/Jul/10 9:02pm

Good stuff! :thumbsup:
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Postby jimc on Wed 28/Jul/10 10:48pm

Sounds fantastic, although without putting a damper on it. How will the logistics work in trying to get the top names out of their contracts if that is what they want. Also, it seems as though there are many a Kiwi rider at Radioshack at the minute, how are they going lure those sorts of riders back? Will be awesome if they get it running though.
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Re: Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby fatwombat on Thu 29/Jul/10 2:09am

jimc wrote:Sounds fantastic, although without putting a damper on it. How will the logistics work in trying to get the top names out of their contracts if that is what they want. Also, it seems as though there are many a Kiwi rider at Radioshack at the minute, how are they going lure those sorts of riders back? Will be awesome if they get it running though.

I think the idea of an all-kiwi team is good in theory, but as well as JimC's point, would it really be good for NZ cycling to put all our eggs in one basket like that? I'm thinking of Sky here - the only Brits to shine in TdF were Cav (HTC) and Dave Millar (Garmin) for his grit in plugging on with busted ribs. I would have thought that a lot of the good publicity for cycling in NZ is that our boys are good enough to make it in the top international teams, and if we try to keep them all in the "home" side it limits the range of learning opportunities kiwi riders get, and the same applies in reverse - a kiwi team would benefit from a few experienced foreigners e.g. how much could our upcoming stars learn if they had a Jens Voigt or Stu O'Grady in the squad? Or how much did Sky miss Hendy?

To draw a parallel with rugby league, some of the best kiwis are as good as they are because they learn with top coaches and players at Souths, Paramatta, or the Storm, and the Warriors seem to go better when they have a good mix of kiwis and aussies on the paddock.

If Pureblack is intended mainly to get our best juniors mixing it with the world's best teams though, then I think it's an absolute ripper of an idea. And my recommendation for recruiting -"Get Fogt!"
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Re: Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby Joel on Thu 29/Jul/10 7:35am

i don't think the intent is to get all kiwi guys out of contracts etc.. this is just one avenue into pro-cycling, it does not mean that from now on ALL aspiring and current kiwi pro cyclists must be on this team.

Good on them, and i hope it goes well..
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Re: Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby johnL on Thu 29/Jul/10 9:21am

pro tour is a lofty goal, at least 23 riders of that class, and 23 riders and management that get on..... All from NZ? I think the UCI would be saying show me the experience that will get you in the top 15 teams in the world rankings. How much sucking up to the ASO would have to be done to event get a start in their lesser events.

Otherwise going conti or pro conti could be a go, but then Cinelli couldnt get starts in Europe.
Just saying that all, but a great road for athletes to follow through to Road teams, more lie the Limoux ETC that BikeNZ had
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Re: Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby Al_Bushman on Thu 29/Jul/10 10:19am

Will be interesting to see which companies hop on board this 'train' ;)

Imagine - "Team Kiwibank" :love: Imagine Kiwibank giving Rabobank & Saxobank a run for their money. :lol:

Still like they said about us - "it'll never get off the ground" ;)
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Re: Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby gydey on Thu 29/Jul/10 10:20am

I agree with John.

You have to walk before you can run.

I nthink its a great dream, but in reality if they can set up a Conti Pro Team and set it up in the US or Belg and link themselves with a Pro Team as a feeder, and make it an Australasian team, then you will start the development process.

In my opinion, simply NZ cycling does not have the depth of U23 riders to get the results required to force entry into big races. An option would be to licence the team in the US as a NZ team ie Sean Kelly An Post..and have a quota of US and NZ riders so you meet the requirements of both the UCI and UASC
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Re: Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby Joel on Thu 29/Jul/10 10:29am

i think once rubber hits the road, the practicalities will force certain decisions.. but as with all things.. needs to start with a vision :thumbsup:
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Re: Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby Tugboat on Thu 29/Jul/10 11:06am

Joel wrote:i think once rubber hits the road, the practicalities will force certain decisions.. but as with all things.. needs to start with a vision :thumbsup:


:withstupid:

Best of luck to Carl. I love the fresh attitude he has brought to cycling. He knows that if you don't aim for the top and believe you can achieve it then you'll never get there.
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Re: Kiwi Cyclists Launch Tour De France Dream

Postby 84millsy on Thu 29/Jul/10 12:26pm

Al_Bushman wrote:Will be interesting to see which companies hop on board this 'train' ;)

Imagine - "Team Kiwibank" :love: Imagine Kiwibank giving Rabobank & Saxobank a run for their money. :lol:

Still like they said about us - "it'll never get off the ground" ;)


You putting your hand up for team director there Al?
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