Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby Eljefe on Thu 15/Sep/11 9:34pm

Yeah I rode the Maitai side pre-brevet with a minimal load and still had a couple of short walks where it was loose and steep. Its gonna be fun!
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby craigofnz on Fri 16/Sep/11 11:58am

Should be an awesome adventure.

Hmmmmmmm...

    Q. 29er HT or CX bike?
    Q. Fly or Bivvy bag?
    Q. Racked bag or backpack?
    Q. How many water bottles? :D
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby sifter on Fri 16/Sep/11 12:01pm

:D I reckon 57 bottles should just about do it. I'd be very reluctant to ride with a backpack...
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby Eljefe on Fri 16/Sep/11 12:13pm

Yeah, we had good advice from the adventure racer guys who say, keep as much weight OFF your back as you can. Will save your lower back and a$$ as well I imagine? Thats what i Iiked about my aero bars, I could lean forward and take the weight off the rear.
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby Zoom on Fri 16/Sep/11 12:34pm

Eljefe wrote:Yeah, we had good advice from the adventure racer guys who say, keep as much weight OFF your back as you can. Will save your lower back and a$$ as well I imagine? Thats what i Iiked about my aero bars, I could lean forward and take the weight off the rear.


Keep weight off your back as much as you can. I did use a pack but mainly for ready access stuff I needed - anything remotely heavy went on the rack. There are are heaps of opportnuities to fill up with water. the only time I ran out was on the Molesworth Rd, on the hideous false flat, that will still be a hideous false flat going the other way! I drank from the stream with no ill effects. 2 bottles should be fine (well it was for me)

29er HT with suspension front fork will be easy when you are tried IMHO. You can also fit fatter, higher volume tyres, on an MTB making the ride a little nicer. I will be going for comfort. I was grateful for the fully I used last time :)
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby sifter on Fri 16/Sep/11 1:25pm

Zoom wrote:
Eljefe wrote:Yeah, we had good advice from the adventure racer guys who say, keep as much weight OFF your back as you can. Will save your lower back and a$$ as well I imagine? Thats what i Iiked about my aero bars, I could lean forward and take the weight off the rear.


Keep weight off your back as much as you can. I did use a pack but mainly for ready access stuff I needed - anything remotely heavy went on the rack. There are are heaps of opportnuities to fill up with water. the only time I ran out was on the Molesworth Rd, on the hideous false flat, that will still be a hideous false flat going the other way! I drank from the stream with no ill effects. 2 bottles should be fine (well it was for me)

29er HT with suspension front fork will be easy when you are tried IMHO. You can also fit fatter, higher volume tyres, on an MTB making the ride a little nicer. I will be going for comfort. I was grateful for the fully I used last time :)


Re: bottles. I had two 900mL bottles I got off the web, and I think Simon had a couple of Jamis-branded ones sourced locally. It's a good idea to try to organise large ones ahead of time. I'd often start the day with a bottle of iced-coffee in my rear pocket too (a hot drink at the start of the day would've slowed me down too much!)

PS: great to see this thread active again! :)
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby stealth mode on Sat 17/Sep/11 5:46pm

craigofnz wrote:Should be an awesome adventure.

Hmmmmmmm...

    Q. 29er HT or CX bike?
    Q. Fly or Bivvy bag?
    Q. Racked bag or backpack?
    Q. How many water bottles? :D


29er ridgid, bivvy bag, 1xfreeload, 2xlarge bottles whoo hoo may book a night at some place nice mid mission
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby znomit on Sat 17/Sep/11 6:47pm

sifter wrote:I'd often start the day with a bottle of iced-coffee in my rear pocket too (a hot drink at the start of the day would've slowed me down too much!)


On recent missions I've carried a tube of nestle condensed milk and coffee as an emergency ration (I can always drink coffee no matter what my tummy is up to). 190gm 2500kj. Sucking a whole tube down would be a good pick me up.
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby hdb on Sat 17/Sep/11 7:22pm

Eljefe wrote:Yeah, we had good advice from the adventure racer guys who say, keep as much weight OFF your back as you can.

After being the test bunny for trying to ride the Heaphy with all of my gear in a backpack, I will completely support this advice. I had somewhere around 20kg total (with a body weight of 64kg) and I suffered horribly. It was great entertainment for Tama, Jono, Colin et. al. but it sucked to be me. :cry:

Freeload racks appear to be the poison of choice and will be on my bike for any multi-day rides.
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby Eljefe on Sat 17/Sep/11 10:06pm

heh heh. Yeah when we rode the Heaphy, (about 15 years ago), I wasn't even aware of racks, so a heavy back pack it was. It was horrible. It was a there and back two dayer tho so we didn't need that much (only to the last hutt tho). I am surprised the Freeloads are still not getting more uptake with the hard core bike-packers states-side. I reckon that if they are on a fully they go with the "monsterous-seat-bag" scenario. I wonder if there are many failures with those? I certainly hear of a few failures with those "beam" ones that attach to the seat-post.

I have heard of the condensed milk coffee combo. Do they still make it?
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby Simonk on Sat 17/Sep/11 10:35pm

Haven't heard of any of the seat bags failing, but the Freeload racks have more capacity.

When I first did the Heaphy in the 80s, everyone used racks and panniers. I think Dave Micthells crew were the first to abandon panniers; which kinda makes sense when you do a lot of bike carrying.
These things go in cycles, eh.
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby znomit on Sat 17/Sep/11 10:46pm

Eljefe wrote:I have heard of the condensed milk coffee combo. Do they still make it?

Yeah I had to go to a few supermarkets though.
Or: http://www.shopenzed.com/nestle-coffee- ... 99405.html
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby Slim on Sun 18/Sep/11 7:06am

hdb wrote:
Eljefe wrote:Yeah, we had good advice from the adventure racer guys who say, keep as much weight OFF your back as you can.

After being the test bunny for trying to ride the Heaphy with all of my gear in a backpack, I will completely support this advice. I had somewhere around 20kg total (with a body weight of 64kg) and I suffered horribly. It was great entertainment for Tama, Jono, Colin et. al. but it sucked to be me. :cry:

Freeload racks appear to be the poison of choice and will be on my bike for any multi-day rides.



To be fair it was more that the pack was twice the size of you that was entertaining us, rather than the pain you were in.
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby hdb on Sun 18/Sep/11 7:22am

Slim wrote:
hdb wrote:After being the test bunny for trying to ride the Heaphy with all of my gear in a backpack, I will completely support this advice. I had somewhere around 20kg total (with a body weight of 64kg) and I suffered horribly. It was great entertainment for Tama, Jono, Colin et. al. but it sucked to be me. :cry:
Freeload racks appear to be the poison of choice and will be on my bike for any multi-day rides.


To be fair it was more that the pack was twice the size of you that was entertaining us, rather than the pain you were in.


Hey Slim, sorry if it came across that I was offended - in reality I was laughing at my own foolishness. The whole group was amazingly patient with my riding pace and tussles with the swing bridges.
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Re: Kiwi Brevet

Postby craigofnz on Thu 22/Sep/11 9:27pm

sifter wrote:
Zoom wrote:
Eljefe wrote:Yeah, we had good advice from the adventure racer guys who say, keep as much weight OFF your back as you can. Will save your lower back and a$$ as well I imagine? Thats what i Iiked about my aero bars, I could lean forward and take the weight off the rear.


Keep weight off your back as much as you can. I did use a pack but mainly for ready access stuff I needed - anything remotely heavy went on the rack. There are are heaps of opportnuities to fill up with water. the only time I ran out was on the Molesworth Rd, on the hideous false flat, that will still be a hideous false flat going the other way! I drank from the stream with no ill effects. 2 bottles should be fine (well it was for me)

29er HT with suspension front fork will be easy when you are tried IMHO. You can also fit fatter, higher volume tyres, on an MTB making the ride a little nicer. I will be going for comfort. I was grateful for the fully I used last time :)



Will have to see how light I can get my gear for a backcountry brevet. Might check out the recommended freeload racks. Although, personally as a semi-retired tramper I do find that when I can get the luggage light enough, the bike handling is far superior with luggage on me than on appendages attached the bicycle. Got by with a hydration bag and three jersey pockets for the Paris-Brest-Paris 1200k last month. Allowing a few extra days for off-road, backcountry travel and a well deserved distrust NZ weather, I'm pretty sure I will have a little more cargo for this occasion. Still, no need to bring along a fully laden Winnebago.... http://chamoisnews.com/?p=9
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