Postby lubie on Wed 28/Apr/04 3:37pm

no stop am pansy stop will see in dirty ole' chch stop hmmmmm holidays end
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Postby Dazzle on Thu 29/Apr/04 2:37pm

I agree with Bigfoot - saw it last night. Different feel to the first one. Less violence, more acting. David Carradine kicks arse. I'll never look at Darryl Hannah the same way again.

The first one was a revenge movie - this one is a love loss revenge redemption movie.
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Postby Jono on Thu 29/Apr/04 2:46pm

...heh...viccles is off to it this afternoon (damn her and her one week off between jobs).
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Postby Bigfoot on Thu 29/Apr/04 4:05pm

dazz, did you find the end was semi anti-climactic? I thought it would have been abit more grand-scale.
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Postby AarowNZ on Thu 29/Apr/04 4:09pm

My mum wont let me get Vol 1 out on DVD, damn censors! :angry:
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Postby Dazzle on Thu 29/Apr/04 4:40pm

*****spoiler warning - you may want to skip*****


Bigfoot wrote:dazz, did you find the end was semi anti-climactic? I thought it would have been abit more grand-scale.


How would you top the wall to wall sword violence in part 1, with a mere one on one sword fight to finish the movie?
The end plays as a redemption/end of romance.
Part 1 was: WHY the bride wants bloody revenge, and HOW she gets it.
Part 2 is: WHAT is the relationship between the Bride and Bill, WHY Bill did what he did WHERE and WHEN the Bride became the killing machine she is and HOW the Bride and Bill resolve their relationship.
In essence - part 1 feels like a complete revenge movie. The victim is degraded and oppressed, who then becomes the avenger taking bloody revenger out of all proportion to what she suffered. (She loses 4 years and a lot of dignity, and in return 50 (?) + are sliced diced and violently killed). All you need to know is she is a killing machine, and has reason to take down her former comrades.
Part 2 is all the backstory, character motivation and reasoning. Budd, Elle and Bill are fleshed out extensively, and the Bride actualy becomes a person and not an avenging force.
Infact, in part 2, the bride only kills once. The cat fight until the conclusion was pretty much a draw. With the one kill it is a symbolic 'student has become the master' growth of character moment.

blah blah blah etc. :satan:
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Postby Bigfoot on Thu 29/Apr/04 4:55pm

agreed :)
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Postby Naff on Thu 29/Apr/04 4:58pm

AarowNZ wrote:My mum wont let me get Vol 1 out on DVD, damn censors! :angry:


Be good to your mother..... She's only doing whats best for you.... Heh heh :p
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Postby AarowNZ on Thu 29/Apr/04 5:01pm

Naff wrote:
AarowNZ wrote:My mum wont let me get Vol 1 out on DVD, damn censors! :angry:


Be good to your mother..... She's only doing whats best for you.... Heh heh :p


Just because i might become an assasin and start slicing people up with a samirai sword!
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Postby Naff on Thu 29/Apr/04 5:06pm

AarowNZ wrote:Just because i might become an assasin and start slicing people up with a samirai sword!


No, because your young eyes dont need to see thast sort of stuff, ok maybe because you're slightly crazy :eh:
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Postby lil_me on Fri 30/Apr/04 5:11am

I went and saw vol.2 with out seeing vol.1 :crazy: (not on purpose the flim i was intended to see was sold out so i went to see kill bill) I thourght it was really really good :thumbsup: but i didnt have the first one to compare it to. So now i dont really know wether to bother watching the first one, cos i supose there is really no point. hmm or is there? :huh: So what does everyone think, which is better vol.1 or vol.2???
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Postby Bigfoot on Fri 30/Apr/04 6:33am

see volume 1 - seriously, it was brilliant. Its a very different movie to volume 2. Many people I know liked 1 better than 2
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Postby Naff on Fri 30/Apr/04 8:11am

Bigfoot wrote:Many people I know liked 1 better than 2


Isnt that the case with almost all sequels? :eh:
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Postby Bigfoot on Fri 30/Apr/04 9:16am

kill bil vol 2 wasnt explicitly a sequel though - it was just the second half of the movie :)
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Postby Naff on Fri 30/Apr/04 9:19am

Bigfoot wrote:kill bil vol 2 wasnt explicitly a sequel though - it was just the second half of the movie :)


ok :) well i havent seen either... will do so soon :blush:
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