Should we build a road through the Kahurangi National Park.

Hell Yes. New roads are always the solution.
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Hell No. Will somebody please think of the birds.
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I don't know
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Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby Rik on Wed 16/Dec/15 12:36pm

So a Stuff poll on the road idea, in which more than 7500 people have voted so far, found 54 per cent thought it was a great idea for locals and tourists, 26 per cent thought it was outrageous to build a road through a national park, and 20 per cent wanted more more information before they decided.

So the majority of people think a road through a national park is a good idea. Is this the opinion of car-centric population or do you the vorbing public feel differently
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby jo on Wed 16/Dec/15 12:49pm

Stuff pole. Nuff said. :hmmm:
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby jo on Wed 16/Dec/15 12:49pm

Also. Kittenz. :hmmm:
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby Velocipedestrian on Wed 16/Dec/15 1:10pm

Yeah Rik, bow to the Kitteh pressure. I had to.


Road is dumb.
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby Trail on Wed 16/Dec/15 3:30pm

I thought the Heaphy was a road?
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby Trail on Wed 16/Dec/15 3:31pm

Actually - pretty sure the Wangapeka was surveyed as a road through there too...
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby matnz on Wed 16/Dec/15 4:04pm

Daft idea. Can't we leave just one corner of NZ free of the vermin for those that can be bothered makng an effort?

Economically it does not stack up - NZ Inc won't earn another dollar from it. Just as many tourists will visit and they will stay just as long, so the net income for the expense is $0. It will spread them out further and make cleaning up after them harder. Every one kows its better to keep the animals in the same paddock that have them wadering around uncontrolled, trampling and destorying the entire farm.

Don't get me started on the desire of Kiwis to build a minimum wage economy based on fickle parasites who's only desire is to 'Do New Zealand', and then find another unsuspecting destination to 'Do'. Who in tourisum gets paid a decent amount? Why on earth do we feel the need to encourage it? Is it because New Zealander love work that requires limited brain power and lots of grunt to earn peanuts? Same goes for the Wine Industry.

If they want to attract tourists to Karame, and generate a cash injection, a 'Densiton Gondalla' and associated enterprises would be infinitly cheaper to implement with far less envrinmental vandalisium and far more tourist interest than another road though a pretty rain forest.....
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby happybaboon on Wed 16/Dec/15 4:35pm

Basically I've had a gutsfull, kiwi battlers have had a gutsfull, and it's time somebody did something about it!
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby Wobbler on Wed 16/Dec/15 4:51pm

Bloody tourists can just fuck off back to where they came from
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby wachtourak on Wed 16/Dec/15 7:02pm

Yeah they should go crash on their own roads
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby Fraser on Thu 17/Dec/15 3:07am

I would love it if they built more roads in NZ. Huge dual carriage roads scything their way through the countryside. Make it a Toll road with a 120 or 130kph speed limit and 100kph for over 3.5t trucks.
Just like the Americans think that gun deaths are unchangeable. Kiwi's accept the Road deaths in a similar fashion.
What is the road toll at the moment a couple of hundred a year? What are the solutions? Tourists needing a day off before they can drive? If only everyone stuck to the speed limit? Police being stricter on Kiwi battlers?
The basic problem is that NZ road are horribly designed and outdated. Other countries in the world don't build roads like a NZ State Highway as this doesn't work.
To put this into context Norway hasn't had a child die in a road accident this year. They have mountains, fiords just like NZ. they even have snow and ice for 4 months of the year to compound the problem yet they don't have a Holiday road toll read out on the news like a scorecard.
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby happybaboon on Thu 17/Dec/15 7:23am

They also make a few trillion each year from drilling up shitloads of oil and selling cluster bombs :eh:

NZ doesn't have the money to invest in massive infrastructure projects like "rebuild ALL the roads". Go back to the 80s and give Muldoon a gobby - he'd love that idea. The 2015 era kids who are still living in poverty because of the choices he made... not so much in favour of that idea.

Need less cars on the roads. Invest in the public transports and the bicycling.
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby Wobbler on Thu 17/Dec/15 7:47am

happybaboon wrote:They also make a few trillion each year from drilling up shitloads of oil and selling cluster bombs :eh:


So what you are saying is the protesters who have a wah about oil exploration are killing kids :eh:
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby matnz on Thu 17/Dec/15 8:17am

The National park suggestion is not about building better roads, this is about building more roads. More roads cost more to build and maintain, meaning less $$$ per kilometer for the roads that are needed. Supporting the National Park road because we need better roads is more daft than supporting it for tourism.

I agree many of our roads are inferior in every way to those in Europe and America. Hell, why stop at 130km/h, I have driven the autobahns of Germany at over 240km/h - build the roads good enough and any twit with half a brain and no skill (meaning me) can drive fast. We have 4 million people supporting 11000km of state highway of which 200km is motorway - how much are you prepared to pay for the a dual carriage way motorway the length and breath of the county? The problem won't be fixed by fixing the roads, its the twit behind the wheel no driving to the conditions, and as the roads get better the idiots will become better idiots.

The real answer lies in driver-less cars - did you not hear by 2020 we will all be riding in them and no one will own a car ever again.
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Re: Kahurangi National Park Road

Postby Rik on Thu 17/Dec/15 10:35am

matnz wrote:The real answer lies in driver-less cars - did you not hear by 2020 we will all be riding in them and no one will own a car ever again.


There was a piece on fifth gear last night about Volvo's safety lab. They are confidently predicting that by 2020 NO-ONE will die in one of their car from an accident precisely because their intention is to remove the fcukwit behind the wheel from the equation.
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