Helmet laws are a bunch of arsehole...

true
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12%
false
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its the LAW goddamit
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stop oppressing me fascist bully boys
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Jonkey doesn't wear one and i love him
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Total voters : 41

Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers (now With Pole)

Postby Fraser on Fri 10th Feb 8:11pm

The New Zealand Medical Journal research found a 51 per cent drop in the average hours cycled per person from the 1989-90 period when compared to 2006-09.
-A 51 per cent drop in the average hours cycled per person from the 1989-90 period when compared to 2006-09
-Risk to cyclists had not changed greatly between 1989-1990 and 2006-09
-Comparing the ratio of cyclist to pedestrian injuries from 1988-91 to 2003-07 showed cyclists' injuries more than doubled compared with pedestrians
-By 2003-07 cyclists had a 20 per cent higher accident rate compared with pre law

Personally I was wearing a helmet before this campaign from Rebecca Oaten came to my school. I still wear one most of the time and just as before the law I don't care if you wear one or not. But in NZ it has become more of an issue -
Punters shouting at you from thier cars if you put the helmet on the bars when you riding up a steep hill on a hot day.

Stuff article here
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby Mickyfinn on Fri 10th Feb 8:19pm

saved my life last year
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby Mickyfinn on Fri 10th Feb 8:20pm

and giro gave me a new helmet too !
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby CrustyMTB on Fri 10th Feb 8:23pm

Fraser wrote:The New Zealand Medical Journal research found a 51 per cent drop in the average hours cycled per person from the 1989-90 period when compared to 2006-09.
-A 51 per cent drop in the average hours cycled per person from the 1989-90 period when compared to 2006-09
-Risk to cyclists had not changed greatly between 1989-1990 and 2006-09
-Comparing the ratio of cyclist to pedestrian injuries from 1988-91 to 2003-07 showed cyclists' injuries more than doubled compared with pedestrians
-By 2003-07 cyclists had a 20 per cent higher accident rate compared with pre law

Personally I was wearing a helmet before this campaign from Rebecca Oaten came to my school. I still wear one most of the time and just as before the law I don't care if you wear one or not. But in NZ it has become more of an issue -
Punters shouting at you from thier cars if you put the helmet on the bars when you riding up a steep hill on a hot day.

Stuff article here
Dubious pseudoscience, must have been written by an economist.
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby znomit on Fri 10th Feb 8:36pm

NZ Herald

In his report, Mr Clarke also concluded that since helmet law came into effect 20 more cyclists were being injured per hour."

Thats an awful lot.
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby wachtourak on Fri 10th Feb 8:40pm

OMG HELMETLESS CYCLING UTOPIA
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby cruiser on Fri 10th Feb 8:41pm

hopefully this sorts it:

Comment on this thread if you're the king of twerps.
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby wachtourak on Fri 10th Feb 8:56pm

people dont ride bikes cause we have a culture of wrapping kids in cotton wool and driving them to school and making them lazy pieces of shit. that and adults are lazy pieces of shit too and everything is a get everywhere as fast as possible society. even though bikes are faster half the time anyway, fuck driving in traffic

OH WAHAHAHA i am an epic twerp for sure. but i'm right.
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby Kiwicyclo on Fri 10th Feb 8:57pm

znomit wrote:NZ Herald

In his report, Mr Clarke also concluded that since helmet law came into effect 20 more cyclists were being injured per hour."

Thats an awful lot.


Spilling a hot latte in your lap will do that . . . .
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby Wobbler on Fri 10th Feb 8:58pm

I blame this guy

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I r statistician
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby znomit on Fri 10th Feb 8:59pm

Kiwicyclo wrote:
znomit wrote:NZ Herald

In his report, Mr Clarke also concluded that since helmet law came into effect 20 more cyclists were being injured per hour."

Thats an awful lot.


Spilling a hot latte in your lap will do that . . . .


Most road rides I end up getting my pride injured.
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby wuffy on Fri 10th Feb 9:02pm

wachtourak wrote:people dont ride bikes cause we have a culture of wrapping kids in cotton wool and driving them to school and making them lazy pieces of shit. that and adults are lazy pieces of shit too and everything is a get everywhere as fast as possible society. even though bikes are faster half the time anyway, fuck driving in traffic

OH WAHAHAHA i am an epic twerp for sure. but i'm right.


So that makes you a right twerp :D
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby RussS on Fri 10th Feb 9:18pm

Fraser wrote:The New Zealand Medical Journal research found a 51 per cent drop in the average hours cycled per person from the 1989-90 period when compared to 2006-09.
-A 51 per cent drop in the average hours cycled per person from the 1989-90 period when compared to 2006-09
-Risk to cyclists had not changed greatly between 1989-1990 and 2006-09
-Comparing the ratio of cyclist to pedestrian injuries from 1988-91 to 2003-07 showed cyclists' injuries more than doubled compared with pedestrians
-By 2003-07 cyclists had a 20 per cent higher accident rate compared with pre law

Personally I was wearing a helmet before this campaign from Rebecca Oaten came to my school. I still wear one most of the time and just as before the law I don't care if you wear one or not. But in NZ it has become more of an issue -
Punters shouting at you from thier cars if you put the helmet on the bars when you riding up a steep hill on a hot day.

Stuff article here


I look at the bolded parts and wonder what freaking planet the person that wrote this lives on :eh:

Risk to cyclists has not changed greatly between 1989-1990 and 2006-2009 ..... bullshit.
I can't go back to 1989-90, but in 2000 there were about 2.4 million light vehicles in NZ and in 2009 that was up to around 3 million. Based on what I have been told I am guessing in 1989 the numbers were probably around 1.5 million. Add in the fact that the roads really did not improve that much over those years (probably declining I would guess), coupled with vehicles that are a lot more powerful and with a huge boost in immigrant numbers that probably bought their drivers licences in a raffle the risk has probably trebled at the least.
As far as riding hours going down, I think they probably have gone up - but that is including mountainbike riding, which has taken many off the roads.
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby Simonius_Titius on Fri 10th Feb 9:35pm

I know someone who normally has a helmet on when he leaves or arrives home but has revealed TWO $55 fines for no helmet in the last few months. That is a statistic which tells a story. :D

Very true about the law reducing cyclist numbers though, that is the only obvious effect I can see in the data.
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Re: Helmet Law Has Halved Cyclist Numbers

Postby E Dogg Capizzle on Fri 10th Feb 10:05pm

Simonius_Titius wrote:
Very true about the law reducing cyclist numbers though, that is the only obvious effect correlation I can see in the data.


Fixed that for you buddy.

Still, I think that helmet laws are pure moralism.
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