Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby cassina on Mon 29/Mar/10 3:26pm

84millsy wrote:Yeah I may have been a little over zealous with the timing, but was totally feeling on song.I'm a lot stronger on the flats than I am through the hills and was expecting a tailwind from Havelock.

As for the comment about 'riding your level', what is that even supposed to mean? I was planning on riding with the speed bunnies but due to not having a current licence I couldn't. Are you saying that if you aren't riding with team kit you should back down and coast the race through?

Well here is my last update.

Got rushed into hospital this morning with surgery in mind. A specialist did another scan and brought me bad news. Turns out my shoulder is floating, i.e no longer attached. My shoulder blade is not attached anywhere, and my collar bone is so badly broken that it is going to require a plate and screws. There is even a piece of bone floating that they couldn't convince me about. I will be under going rehab for at least 3 months and I won't be able to row or kayak again. Cycking may be impaired aswell. Surgery is on wednesday now because they had to order parts. I'm basically fucked. End story.

I hope everyone else involved came out ok. I tried asking around but noone had any news.


I have a friend with a permanently caved in shoulder that he got falling on a rock while skiing. He is still able to ski though.
So give sking a go perhaps.
I ride a mountain bike and motorcycle and ski so am exposed to the same kind or worse injury myself each day but feel at speed a motorcycle is safer with its wider wheels and better braking. Hope you can recover the best you can and am able to find a new
recreational pursuit that you find equally as enjoyable.
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby Spyder on Mon 29/Mar/10 3:55pm

Millsy, that's really bad news. Hopefully things won't pan out as bad as what they are predicting. You were riding really well.
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby Al_Bushman on Mon 29/Mar/10 4:06pm

84millsy wrote: Got rushed into hospital this morning with surgery in mind. A specialist did another scan and brought me bad news. Turns out my shoulder is floating, i.e no longer attached. My shoulder blade is not attached anywhere, and my collar bone is so badly broken that it is going to require a plate and screws. There is even a piece of bone floating that they couldn't convince me about. I will be under going rehab for at least 3 months and I won't be able to row or kayak again. Cycking may be impaired aswell. Surgery is on wednesday now because they had to order parts. I'm basically fucked. End story.

I hope everyone else involved came out ok. I tried asking around but noone had any news.


Mate, careful about the Bone Shop. I was given all sorts of conflicting advice there and in hindsight wish I'd got a second opinion from Sports Med early on. I was told I'd be sweet-as but as it turns out that was complete BS.

As for your recovery, I'm sure you'lll be fine. After stuffing my knee in soccer I was told I wouldn't be able to run off road again, but determined to prove them wrong I went out and ran anyway. I got 5th in the annual Baldwin St Gutbuster in Dunedin and 16th in Avalanche Peak 2yrs after the accident. I have subsequently placed 4th in a 24hr rogaine, and run Avalanche Peak again.

Your injury sounds like shit, but stay positive and listen to those around you that know what they are on about. Deb Robinson at Sports Med is awesome and well respected (All Blacks Doctor) and knows her shit. I would suggest contacting her early on in proceedings for her opinion about rehab & procedure. You can get copies of your X-Rays from the Bone Shop put on to CD for free and you'll need to take those to her.

Best of luck for Wed.
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby JohnDH on Mon 29/Mar/10 4:11pm

84millsy wrote: Got rushed into hospital this morning with surgery in mind. A specialist did another scan and brought me bad news. Turns out my shoulder is floating, i.e no longer attached. My shoulder blade is not attached anywhere, and my collar bone is so badly broken that it is going to require a plate and screws. There is even a piece of bone floating that they couldn't convince me about.


Take it day by day, Millsy.

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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby tony_11 on Mon 29/Mar/10 8:47pm

Gutted for you Chad... Hang in there I'm sure you will bounce back.

If there is a positive over this.. It had to be that the Lovely Noah wasn't written off...
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby Mr58shotagain on Tue 30/Mar/10 12:23pm

I did the Magnum. Was a great first lap on the front bunch coming to the start finish in about 2.32 with most of the guys sharing the work until the attack at the feed station near the start finish. Congrats to those guys who rode off and left us getting our drink bottles. Nice work. Some of them had people handing bottles on other parts of the course which seems to go against both the rules and spirit of racing.
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby salmo trutta on Tue 30/Mar/10 1:08pm

Mr58shotagain wrote:I did the Magnum. Was a great first lap on the front bunch coming to the start finish in about 2.32 with most of the guys sharing the work until the attack at the feed station near the start finish. Congrats to those guys who rode off and left us getting our drink bottles. Nice work. Some of them had people handing bottles on other parts of the course which seems to go against both the rules and spirit of racing.


I thought, while not a rule in a race that you can't attack at a feed station, it is etiquette not to do so. Particulary in a race like that where supporters vehicles are not allowed and you just can't carry that much drink/food. Sucks a bit I reckon. I would be having a word or two with them at the end. One would begin with F and the other C!
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby alanw on Tue 30/Mar/10 1:52pm

sure you can, I've done it before. 2 bottles on the frame, 2 bottles in the pockets and the other pocket full of 12-15 gels. Stuff your vest/warmers down your top. Sorted @ 750ml & 400 cal / hr for 4-5 hours, I bet you can't consume much more than that :)
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby alanw on Tue 30/Mar/10 1:53pm

although I can see needing slightly more water if its a burning hot day
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby Klarkash-ton on Tue 30/Mar/10 1:55pm

ok, my report on my magnum attempt.

Last year the magnum was to be my first 'big' ride. From not having done more than 70k at the start of the year I had been doing a load of riding, including a 200k ride (pretty flat course though) and did really well in the Kapiti Cycle Challenge. But my 3yr old daughter got really ill with rotovirus on the Monday prior to the race (hospitalised even for two nights) and come friday night what I thought was bad case of nerves turned out to be my turn with the rotovirus and I was still on the toilet when the race started on saturday.

This year I had had a broken year of training, but a good 300km ride on 350.org day and a successful Taupo enduro under my belt. Early Feb I was fitter and stronger than I was for the enduro so I was really looking forward to the magnum and ready to nail it. However my 'interesting' 2009 continued into 2010 and external issues hindered my training, and when I tried to get back into it I came down with a chest infection. I missed my 'local' derby, the Kapiti Cycle challenge as I was still on antibiotics and felt I would probably blow my recovery if I rode, and though I was feeling fully cured by graperide I had only managed a Tuesday night race 40km with the Kapiti cycle club (where I got dropped at half way) and a couple of light spins that hurt far more than they should have!

So I knew I was going to be struggling, and decided I would still do the magnum, but take it easy and just finish it. I didn't want to be thinking about it for another year, so I quietly pledged that I would finish no matter how bad I felt.

Perhaps in an attempt to compensate for lack of fitness I gathered up loads of food, my hydrapack, and the graperide kit I bought for the 2009 race. Probably carried too much!

I was staying at a friends place in Blenheim, and was a bit worried by the wind on the way out to the start. It was hard work just getting to Renwick! I figured it would be hard work from Blenheim to Havelock, but it turned out to be not much of a factor after Picton, with the top part of the course nicely sheltered. It was nice and warm though, so not extra layers were needed. At the start I saw William Adin, who I did large sections to the Enduro with, but I saw he ran pretty well on the Cycle Challenge the week before so I didn't want to slow him down. However there was a large number of slow riders who pushed up to the front at the start and by the time I had passed them on the windy exit the front bunch had already leapt ahead. I don't know why people planning on doing 7hr plus races push to the front, but it set me off a bit and I foolishly forgot my cruise and enjoy the ride plan and set off after the front bunch. with the wind behind and a couple of other riders catching upwe were doing 50+ towards Blenheim and making no impression on the front guys, though we could see them on and off for the next hour of so. As we headed up to Picton we settled into a solid group of maybe 10 riders, though at least three of them seemed to be new to rotating.

We lost three or more on the climb up to Picton but I knew once we got past picton my lack of fitness would tell on me. I'm not a great climber, plus I'd put on a couple of kilos in the last month due to inactivity: also no one else was wearing a hydrapak, don't know where they get water from! So out the back door I went and I settled down for a lonley ride for the rest of the lap! Sure enough I saw only one rider until Havelock! The nasty wind I was worried about wasn't there and it was actually a beautiful morning with a spectacular sunrise. I wondered it I would have stopped if I had a camera! It was great to see so many early morning spectators out having their breakfasts and cheering us on too :) I cheered up and renewed my vow to finish.

I caught a chap from the Hutt and then a small group of three caught us just before Havelock so we had a small group towards Renwick. I took my turns and we were rotating quickly but my legs weren't up to it, so I dropped out after a while and came down to start lap 2 by myself just after 9am. I stopped and had a chat to some marshals and checked my phone, whioch had rung just as I got to Renwick.

At Taupo I was 60kms of so into lap 2 before the groups started coming through. Here pretty much everyone had already gone, and I was passing loads of laughing, giggling gaggles of riders who had no idea that people might want to get past them. Half way to blenheim a group of 5 magnum riders came past and I gladly jumped in with them. They were each taking long pulls at the front before rotating and I did my best to earn my way. But half way to Picton I finished a turn and rotated off and got cut off by half a dozen 1 lappers that were freeloading on us. I was struggling so let them all go and ended up dragging a bunch of old ladies up the hill, into the wind towards Picton Airport. It was then I got the worst cramping I had ever had, in my left thigh, where I had never had a cramp before! My whole thigh cramped up and when I stopped to dismount my right thigh locked up exactly same as I lifted it over the bar! I stopped and ate some OSM, a clif gel pack and some other stuff I'd bought (Bloks?), a banana, and suddenly realised I'd not eaten much on lap 1. I gingerly set off again and after a short period I started to feel pretty good. I decided I better eat more as I rode!

Climbing out of Picton felt completely different from lap 1. I felt stronger but it was probably just an illusion due to passing all the slower riders, as opposed to being left for dead by the stronger riders. But there was also the knowledge that this was the only real climb and getting it done was in effect finishing the race! So got to the top feeling ok and on the second right hander on the descent I stupidly ran wide, hit some leaves or stuff and hammered into the bank at some silly speed. took all of the impact on the shoulder and ribs on the left side. It hurt. Nice guy called Jeff kindly stopped to help pick me up, thanks man!

I think I must have told myself a couple of hundred times by this point, 'just finish, no matter what' . So despite Jeffs worries, I got back on the bike. I couldn't use my left arm very well, but the hand was fine so I thought, yep, keep going. The rest of the descent was pretty scarey and any bumps sent pain through my side. Turned out braking with the left hand hurt too, but I was able to use the front brake fine. I couldn't get out of the seat so climbing was pretty damn slow. I couldn't reach any food but though it hurt I could still get my drink bottle. Also the still half full hydrapak now became very useful!I got another attack of cramps just before Linkwater so I stopped again for food, not much left and didn't have the same beneficial effect as the first picnic. I stopped at the aid station at linkwater, to get a check over and they said I had probably hurt my scapula but only a hospital could tell how bad. So I got some more water at and headed off. Got another attack of cramps but if hurt too much to dismount and mount, so I couldn't be bothered stopping, and for some reason they kind of eased off, maybe the food did help. Passed my sister and a friend just before Havelock and waited for them before heading off on the last leg. Finished and got some painkillers from the first aid tent, and chatted with various friends from the KCC while waiting for my sister to give me a lift to the hospital. Was surprised to notice blood all over the bottom bracket, didn't think the road rash was that bad.

Getting to the hospital late was good as they had been kept pretty busy! But most of the cyclists had been seen to by the time I arrived so the waiting time wasn't the 1 hour the board warned of. Fractured clavicle and scapula. My overall time was 7.19, the second lap was pretty slow! I guess a fair bit of that was spent out of the saddle. But I finished. Not sure how to top this next year though.
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby nzmatto on Tue 30/Mar/10 2:32pm

Perhaps to top it next year you could try again, only without being sick, without any crashes and with a perfect build up!! :)

Well done on finishing the ride you hard bugger!!!! I sure hope you get well quick. Take some time to recover.
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby Mr58shotagain on Tue 30/Mar/10 3:13pm

alanw wrote:sure you can, I've done it before. 2 bottles on the frame, 2 bottles in the pockets and the other pocket full of 12-15 gels. Stuff your vest/warmers down your top. Sorted @ 750ml & 400 cal / hr for 4-5 hours, I bet you can't consume much more than that :)


Yeah, I notice some guys seem to get away with not a lot of fluid. I seem to need heaps or it is cramp city... had two bottles on the bike one in the back pocket and two for the swap. Last year the bunch sat up for the guys who had to get more and was expecting the same again. Maybe my 40yr old body just needs more fuel :blink:
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby Oli on Tue 30/Mar/10 4:08pm

Jeepers, Klarkash-ton! Doing it tough, mate. All the best for a speedy recovery.
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby jamse on Wed 31/Mar/10 12:26am

Milsie I was two people behind you! Nasty man.

I fully agree with you guys and how cheeky it was that the 2nd and 1st place getters started in the bunch behind and caught up knowing their transponder time would have 2 minutes or so spare. Its bull shit. Its also bull shit how someone who starts behind you and you beat them in the sprint can still beat you! That does make sense. Unfortunately. Silly silly. Ridiculous.
Also in my bunch, the first bunch to leave, I won the sprint, the sprint and was first into the entrance to the Forrest Estate where from there onwards to the finishing line it is meant to be a "No overtaking zone..." however I was over taken and ended up crossing the line in second position. Argued it with the organiser but to no prevail.
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Re: Grape Ride Results Anybody?

Postby wachtourak on Wed 31/Mar/10 7:02am

What makes me lol is how jamse used to constantly call roadies fags etc and now he is one
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