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Joined: Dec 25, 2001 Posts: 34,392 Location: Poundland
Posted: Sat 5/Jul/03 7:57pm Post subject: Query: Drifting
Anyone want to have a crack at a definition for "drifting"? Are you in control, out of control - or right in between when you're "drifting" - does control matter?
drifting can be either in controll or out of controll, you can be comign down a gravel road and road a corner to have both wheels sliding un controlably.
then again you may have put this drift in to play and have it completely in control but having a foot out and having your brake ready
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 2,697 Location: gettin crunk with the 2six stallions
Posted: Sat 5/Jul/03 9:37pm Post subject:
driftin is the art of getting your vehicle sideways to the direction of momentum, (not using the brakes you amatuer). this is acheived on bicycles by entering a corner and laying the bike over, dabbing a foot, and letting the esra end of the bike come around beside you,(often using opposite lock before entering corner) and it is important not to use the rear brake to assist in drift, as this is terribly unkool and amatuer-like
heres a pic of a fellow tpt rider showing the tpt drift style during a DH race (notice the rear of the bike is roughly 50 degrees out of angle?)
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Joined: May 30, 2003 Posts: 3,817 Location: the alexs, the land that time forgot
Posted: Sun 6/Jul/03 12:47pm Post subject:
GOOSE wrote:
this is acheived on bicycles by entering a corner and laying the bike over, dabbing a foot, and letting the esra end of the bike come around beside you
a true drift is when BOTH wheels have broke traction not just one and i find that when i drift if the ass of the bike is come out behind me somethink bad is about to happen
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 2,697 Location: gettin crunk with the 2six stallions
Posted: Thu 17/Jul/03 8:13pm Post subject:
no. an out of control drift is both wheels, cos when both wheels go sideways, it means you are not cornering anymore, you will be sliding off the track. true drift is letting the ass end of bike hang out wider than the front (often obsereved on the mountain streets of japan at night in 200sx's and cosmos)
Joined: Jan 28, 2003 Posts: 17,513 Location: Planet Claire
Posted: Sat 19/Jul/03 3:10pm Post subject:
JohnnyC wrote:
i would have to agree there. you can't control a drift if your front wheel has lost traction so a drift would have to be just the back wheel.
surely if you are able to stay upright on your bike while it is drifting both wheels, that is a measure of control? Is control required anyway? What if you are rounding a corner, and two-wheel drift sideways while also going forwards, in such a way as to mount to a berm or bank thus gaining traction?
Joined: Jan 08, 2003 Posts: 1,965 Location: The fine line between stupid and clever
Posted: Sat 19/Jul/03 3:54pm Post subject:
I agree that you can drift under control or out-of-control.
My non-educated self would define drift as motion lateral to the centerline of the wheel; this would come as a consequence of breaking traction.
You can drift the rear wheel or both at the same time. What good they do is besides the point...I'm sure we can find techniques where drifting the rear wheel or both would be advantageous (or not).
What I don't think is good technique is outrigging a foot...after a pro clinic, I've really begun to like cornering with the pedals level and the bike heeled way over, body upright directly over the contact patch, hips used to keep the bike from drifting or controlling the drift that does occur (weight distribution).
Funny thing is, with all this fancy talk, I'm still a tihsty rider!!
Joined: Apr 07, 2003 Posts: 2,476 Location: Queenstown and Dorkland
Posted: Sat 19/Jul/03 4:02pm Post subject:
Id say, the main thing with drift is, its around a corner, or approaching, or exiting, basically, if you are drifting, with the wheels unlocked, you could be going faster. Eg. drift for fun (ie boyracer "drifta's'), and stay in traction for race times. with exception IE: i often lock up at around 70 degrees (bike angle) when i REALLY have to stop before a corner, and ive kcoced up the old 70% front braking technique, usually you can get away with not fuking the rims, or rolling the tyre off. but i guess thats with a locked wheel, so doesnt count
Joined: Mar 30, 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Welliah, NZ
Posted: Mon 21/Jul/03 7:22pm Post subject: drifin'...
im no specalist at this, but heres ma two cents.
im sure sliding the term used when u lose traction round the corner. drifting is when u lose traction around multiple corners, so u never quite gain traxion and have the wheel(s) sliding like there outta control, but you still hav control over all.
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 2,697 Location: gettin crunk with the 2six stallions
Posted: Tue 23/Sep/03 12:55am Post subject: Re: Drifin'...
illis wrote:
im sure sliding the term used when u lose traction round the corner. drifting is when u lose traction around multiple corners, so u never quite gain traxion and have the wheel(s) sliding like there outta control, but you still hav control over all.
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