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Chris_D
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 Posted: Sat 8/Apr/06 1:23am Post subject: Louise Nicholas Suppressed Information |
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Who here knows what the supressed information in the Louise Nicholas rape trial is? This is in regards to the flier that was distruted shortly after the trial, in case you're not aware.
PLEASE do not post the information here, because it will leave this thread locked, and will leave you liable.
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Dazzle
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It is not illegal to receive this information - it is however illegal to reproduce, pass on or publish it.
Posting it in an electronic forum is considered to be publishing.
No bulltihs about 'freedom of speach' or 'post it outside NZ'. There is no such thing as freedom of speech (for starters laws on libel, copyright and defamation say otherwise), and Vorb is hosted and opperates as a NZ company.
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Chris_D
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That's right. Besides which, it is not in the interest of justice to publish this particular information - it would be unconstitutional, unjust, and would be treating these defendants differently to others just on the basis of media hype. Although I must admit actively searching for the info myself, which I subsequently found, and realised I already knew this information, but I just didnt realise it was surpressed. Anyone who has been reading Tauranga papers over the last 2 years should know what it's about.
I find it fascinating that all these left wing hippy feminist groups are so interested in this so called 'victim', that they want to strip defendants of their consitutional means to defend themselves
edit: 15 pages views and I'm the only one who's voted...screw this, I'm gonna try to get some sleep again....
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WelshStoat
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Why Start a Thread about sensitive information, that can not be discussed or published?
Maybe you should've read a book... or tried to get to sleep instead 
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Clarky
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Natral
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What i don't understand is why the information is still suppressed, since the case is over and the jurors knowing it cannot subvert the course of justice.
It just brings up a lot of questions about our suppression laws. Campbell Live interveiwed someone who pointed out the difference in our system to America's last night, and it highlighted that there could be some reform in this arena.
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mtbrat
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| Posted: Sat 8/Apr/06 8:41am Post subject: Re: Louise Nicholas Suppressed Information |
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| Chris_D wrote: | Who here knows what the supressed information in the Louise Nicholas rape trial is? This is in regards to the flier that was distruted shortly after the trial, in case you're not aware.
PLEASE do not post the information here, because it will leave this thread locked, and will leave you liable. |
yes, due to my work, known it since the beginning, it will probably come out but may not officially until any appeals have been filed.
I understand why, due to our justice system, it was supressed to give a fair trial on the grounds of the evidence before the jury --> but it will cause some interesting ramifications when divulged
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radical_edward
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| Posted: Sat 8/Apr/06 9:02am Post subject: |
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From what I understand, there is a very good reason that the information is supressed. All this speculation may very well hinder the course of justice.
So if everybody relaxes and forgets all about it, all will come out and be a surprise early christmas present or something.
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Natral
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| Posted: Sat 8/Apr/06 9:13am Post subject: |
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So if everybody relaxes and forgets all about it, all will come out and be a surprise early christmas present or something. |
Not sure i'd want that as a pressy  
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Chris_D
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| Posted: Sat 8/Apr/06 11:05am Post subject: |
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| Natral wrote: | | What i don't understand is why the information is still suppressed, since the case is over and the jurors knowing it cannot subvert the course of justice. |
That's an interesting question - the only thing I can think of is that there may be further charges still to be laid. Or perhaps because our police force is an old boys club who likes to protect their own. But who knows.
And whoever put "Who is Louise Nicholas", I hope that was either a joke, or you've just come out of quaranteen after like a year 
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Dazzle
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| Posted: Sat 8/Apr/06 1:00pm Post subject: |
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| Natral wrote: | What i don't understand is why the information is still suppressed, since the case is over and the jurors knowing it cannot subvert the course of justice.
It just brings up a lot of questions about our suppression laws. Campbell Live interveiwed someone who pointed out the difference in our system to America's last night, and it highlighted that there could be some reform in this arena. |
NZ's is mild compared to Canada - where they can (and do) supress all details relating to specific cases for 40 years.
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DropKick
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I dunno why they even gave it a trial? It just seems fishy to me (ie- smells of bulltihs) that she took 20 years to report it - I would've thought if you'd actually be raped you'd be wanting to report is asap so they can actually get some evidence etc rather than wait 20years and rely on he said vs. she said.
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Natral
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| DropKick wrote: | | I dunno why they even gave it a trial? It just seems fishy to me (ie- smells of bulltihs) that she took 20 years to report it - I would've thought if you'd actually be raped you'd be wanting to report is asap so they can actually get some evidence etc rather than wait 20years and rely on he said vs. she said. |
She's been speaking about it publically for years, and went to police circa 1993 about it.
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Oli
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She'd just been raped by three cops (maybe). Who was she going to report it to - the cops?
There are lots of reasons to do with shame and fear and humiliation which make it very hard for any victim of sexual abuse or assault to feel able to report it.
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DropKick
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still waiting that look still seems odd to me.
Personally I feel protestors should be shot. I don't see how these people handing out pamphlets are supposed to be a better judge of justice than the jury who sat through it all. they should be at work.
enough from me, I'm heading back up the hill.
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