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Camikaze
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 Posted: Tue 27/May/03 12:35pm Post subject: Question 1 - Boxxers on Giant AC2 |
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Anyone using this set-up?
Would be really interested in your comments.... I don't believe I'll have any problems, but if anybody has suffered from;
a) set-up problems
b) head-tube cracking
c) head-tube ovalisation
d) head-tube shearing off entirely, causing grevious bodily harm and/or subsequent death...
...then I'd like to hear from you. All good news is welcomed/encouraged.
P.S. Obviously, if you did experience "d" and subsequently died, don't bother writing in.
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SamultheCamul
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 3:22pm Post subject: |
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dont those Acs have real dodgy, weak headtubes?
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DH_Dave
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 3:30pm Post subject: |
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is that you Cam i think it would be wicked but i would have the boxxers on 6inch .   other wise if you have them on 7 it could=   
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E Dogg Capizzle
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 4:12pm Post subject: |
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| MotoBouy wrote: | | dont those Acs have real dodgy, weak headtubes? |
They are not warrantied for dual crowns, but I wouldn't say they were dodgy or weak in anyway. They look nicely gusseted and have some substantial tubing. I'm tempted to whack some boxxers on mine. I've had it a year and a half so I've had a good go out of it. I'll probably just get a bigger bike though. 
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Camikaze
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 4:12pm Post subject: |
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| KonaKid wrote: | | is that you Cam i think it would be wicked but i would have the boxxers on 6inch . other wise if you have them on 7 it could= |
Who dat? Dave? (hence "Konakid") 
Anyhow, yeah it's Cam... I'm planning on running them on 6" travel, and possibly - depending on money - buy a beefier frame (Cove G-spot, Banshee Scream, Big Hit) if I get more hardcore
But, I think the AC2 will be OK (famous last words  )
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Camikaze
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 4:21pm Post subject: |
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Oh, and I realise that by changing the forks, I'll void the warranty. That's a choice which I'm happy to make - if you don't try you'll never know.
Anyway, when the next person who buys a Giant AC asks "can I put triple clamps on my AC2?", then I'll be able to offer them advice based on experience rather then obtuse, or subjective opinion Still, I appreciate everyone taking time to give me feedback
Hey Dr Capek, what are you riding??
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E Dogg Capizzle
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 4:25pm Post subject: |
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2002 AC3. It's been fantastic for me, it made me want to ride more. I've broken a lot of stuff on it, but the frame is in lovely condition. I may retire it to my xc/trail bike, and buy a DH bike soon.
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RandyP
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 5:29pm Post subject: |
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in my opinon boxxers should be fine on a 6 inch AC2, im running a kona stinky, Very similar design and it's fine, in my opinion, should b sweet
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 6:27pm Post subject: |
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yea they are very similar degsign as randyp said i would go for it. but i would run them on 6 inch
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 6:31pm Post subject: |
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people, please stop double posting.
use the EDIT button!!!!!!!!!!
its not that hard to do
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RandyP
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| Posted: Tue 27/May/03 9:51pm Post subject: |
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i dunno, i would even risk them on 7, theres only an inch difference although my logic of once the back has bottomed you still have an inch of travel up the front like a ht may not work.... if that made sense
but i dont have a clue about the head angles but as you say only one way to find out! 
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Dinsy
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Why would you bother putting those forks on a frame not designed for that sorta thing...
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| Posted: Wed 28/May/03 6:59am Post subject: |
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but if you have them on 7 inch then the turning will be slower and the angles could be stuffed up to. but yea you could try. 
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RandyP
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| Posted: Wed 28/May/03 7:36am Post subject: |
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dpends on what you lijke i guess, if you dont mind a slacker head angle mind slower turning, but your main goal is travel, try it?
i reckon it would be able to handle it, my bike, very similar came with triple clamps, almost the same frame design, it should be sweet in my opinion, BUT it depends on what you like
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Scotty
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| Posted: Wed 28/May/03 9:28am Post subject: |
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Speaking from personal experience, I would say don't do it.
A little story...
The first guy said "can I put boxxers on this?"
I said "no"
"it looks like it'll handle it!" he said
I said "no"
Two months later after fitting said forks the munter comes back in with an ovalized head tube claiming warranty
I said calmly "NO"
The second guy did the same thing with a pair on 2002 Junior T's and put a HUGE crack along the back of the downtube gusset.
If a company syas don't try it they usually have a good reason, but like Dinsy says, why do it when you know what the likely outcome will be?
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