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musket
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| shmoodiver wrote: | | one thing i don't like is two different materials for one frame, carbon rear etc. see lots of join failures |
Again, largely depends on the quality of the build. It's definitely something to beware of on lower end / poorly constructed frames. If done right, it can be a fine thing.
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pushbikerider
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:00pm Post subject: |
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| shmoodiver wrote: | | don't they want to know the benefits of 73mm bottom bracket? is that where i'm going wrong with teh ladies? |
You gotta work a fair bit of majic, for the ladies to care about your width 
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harlansmart
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:00pm Post subject: |
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| musket wrote: | Some don't actually know what they're talking about, and some have just read the hype.
Another material I'm a big fan of is scandium. mmm. |
Another interesting 'ium' from a while ago.... Magnesium (by Kirk)
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OliverBendix
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:01pm Post subject: |
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Really? Lots of forks around of carbon and aluminium glued together - like mine! - so I'd hope they've sorted out gluing one to another.
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Oli
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:09pm Post subject: |
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| pushbikerider wrote: | | FLATULENTFRIEND wrote: |
Why can't shop guys just be honest and say - some Carbon bikes are more comfortable and some aren't and aluminium might give a stiffer rear end etc?
Is that too complex for them or do they think we, the prospective buyers are stupid?  |
1) often shops employ sales people, not bike people to sell, so often the sales ptches come out
2) many people buying road bikes at the moment don't have a whole lot of knowledge about bikes, often its their first or second bike since their teens, so its easier to give tem generalisiations than bore them with "FACT" |
And you can't tell them everything or they'll fall asleep! 
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Oli
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:10pm Post subject: |
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| harlansmart wrote: | | musket wrote: | Some don't actually know what they're talking about, and some have just read the hype.
Another material I'm a big fan of is scandium. mmm. |
Another interesting 'ium' from a while ago.... Magnesium (by Kirk) |
Pinarello Dogma?
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shmoodiver
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:11pm Post subject: |
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| OliverBendix wrote: | | Really? Lots of forks around of carbon and aluminium glued together - like mine! - so I'd hope they've sorted out gluing one to another. |
nah mate, you;'re stuffed 
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Oli
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:14pm Post subject: |
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There are great, okay, mediocre and complete parc bikes in ALL materials - the sheer fact of lasting doesn't make a bicycle good, it's much much more than that.
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shmoodiver
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:20pm Post subject: |
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it's about how they ride, or if from welly how they look  
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Oli
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:23pm Post subject: |
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I thought that was universal?
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shmoodiver
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:26pm Post subject: |
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never was into makin my bikes look, just go. then i got a roadie. 
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harlansmart
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:29pm Post subject: |
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| shmoodiver wrote: | | never was into makin my bikes look, just go. then i got a roadie. |
One of the cleanest statements I've watched go up all day 
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Oli
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:31pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I might expand on that. It IS universal. I don't think many people at all will buy a bike that's ugly; other people might think it's ugly, but that's just an opinion and we all have those.
If you like bikes (I'm guessing most Vorbers do?), then a huge part of the attraction to bikes is what it looks like - bugger all bicycle buyers could actually tell the subtle differences between equivalent bikes, so it usually comes down to what appeals to your eye. Whether that is the look of the frame construction, geometry, components or paintjob, if it don't look right you ain't gonna buy it...the aesthetic side of cycling can't be underestimated.
This excluded beater bikes which often deliberately look like freakshow exhibits.
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shmoodiver
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| Posted: Mon 1/Dec/08 11:42pm Post subject: |
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amen
has campy eurus' on it now
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Oli
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