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nzmatto
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| Philthy wrote: | | Hills never get easier, you just get faster. |
I disagree with you. I live on a decent hill (Maungaraki) and hated it on the Mountainbike. Changed to a road bike and found it heaps easier.....oh and faster too!!! We are talking a 10% improvement in a week, from being on the mounty to the roadie. This was not a fitness thing, purely bike.
The strange thing is on the mounty I was striving to set my best time. I slaughtered that time on my first attempt on the roadie, and all I was interested in was getting to the top, not racing myself.
I find it is all about getting into the right gear, setting the cadence and working to keep the cadence the same, and controlling the climb through using the gears. I do agree that the key to good climbing is loving the hills, and good solid cardio work.
So how can you love hills? Personally I love the view from the top. I set that in my mind and go for it. The same thing works for business. What the human mind can see and believe it can achieve. It is all in the mind!
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Lozz
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| Posted: Thu 30/Oct/08 9:59pm Post subject: |
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go on hill rides with ppl a wee bit faster than you (that will wait for you and not ditch you) and try hang at their pace
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wobbly01
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| Posted: Thu 30/Oct/08 10:37pm Post subject: |
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| Philthy wrote: | | Hills never get easier, you just get faster. |
I heard ash whitehead say something similar to that -it was interesting hearing that from a strong climber.
I've been doing alot of long climbs at my threshold this year (10-20mins and accumulating an hours climbing). I found it really tough at first but once I learned to tolerate the pain it seemed to get easierish
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mtbrat
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| Posted: Thu 30/Oct/08 10:38pm Post subject: |
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| chuckie34 wrote: | | sifter wrote: | | I reckon even flat riding in Wellington helps, the damn wind can be like a hill of sorts at times... |
Saw a quote the other day: all roads are flat, hills are flat roads that point up, head winds are hills you cannot see, so all roads are flat roads. |
hee hee
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Oli
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| Posted: Thu 30/Oct/08 11:02pm Post subject: |
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| wobbly01 wrote: | | Philthy wrote: | | Hills never get easier, you just get faster. |
I heard ash whitehead say something similar to that -it was interesting hearing that from a strong climber.
I've been doing alot of long climbs at my threshold this year (10-20mins and accumulating an hours climbing). I found it really tough at first but once I learned to tolerate the pain it seemed to get easierish |
It's a paraphrase of Greg Lemond's, "It never gets easier, you just go faster..."
I'll go climbing with you Scotty - it'll be great for your morale! 
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taylormade
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 8:00am Post subject: |
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| Oli wrote: | | wobbly01 wrote: | | Philthy wrote: | | Hills never get easier, you just get faster. |
I heard ash whitehead say something similar to that -it was interesting hearing that from a strong climber.
I've been doing alot of long climbs at my threshold this year (10-20mins and accumulating an hours climbing). I found it really tough at first but once I learned to tolerate the pain it seemed to get easierish |
It's a paraphrase of Greg Lemond's, "It never gets easier, you just go faster..."
I'll go climbing with you Scotty - it'll be great for your morale! |
I'll make you both look like climbing legends!! I struggle to climb up hills in my car let alone on a bike.... 
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thorg
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 8:13am Post subject: |
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 hey Scotty, any time you want to go up past the gardens home and feel like a training buddy, give me a text 
I also find Aro Valley a good climb home, nice and steady.
The Dixon/terrace/varsity route is just short steep hill sprints, better than repeats, but not hill training.
either that, or we could start doing Salvation - fenceline - scouthall as the commute into work each morning 
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jeremyb
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 8:20am Post subject: |
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Jeremy discovered that you shouldn't be discouraged because its hard, it never gets easier you just go faster
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chchbob
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 8:29am Post subject: |
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| chuckie34 wrote: |
head winds are hills you cannot see, so all roads are flat roads. |
I love that .... I am always climbing those damn invisible hills on my way home ....  I must say though since modifying my commute to take in some hills most nights I am enjoying them better ... and the really ones are better than the invisble ones ....
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Oli
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 8:49am Post subject: |
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| jeremyb wrote: | | Jeremy discovered that you shouldn't be discouraged because its hard, it never gets easier you just go faster |
That's original - did you come up with that yourself?
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danose
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 10:03am Post subject: |
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| Fergie wrote: | | In Christchurch you can ride the Summit Road in a sub 2 hour ride and get some of the best views anywhere. Very inspiring. |
views! if you're out for a hammer-fest on the summit rd and have time to enjoy the views you're definitely not pushing hard enough!!
my hot tip - find someone to train with - a bit of healthy competition makes you push harder and stops you from focussing on the pain
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jeremyb
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 10:11am Post subject: |
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| Oli wrote: | | jeremyb wrote: | | Jeremy discovered that you shouldn't be discouraged because its hard, it never gets easier you just go faster |
That's original - did you come up with that yourself? |
Jeremy believes he was the instigator of this quote originally on Vorb
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Joel
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 10:17am Post subject: |
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Joel thinks Lemond stole the quote from JB
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danose
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 10:35am Post subject: |
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| Joel wrote: | | Joel thinks Lemond stole the quote from JB |
danose thinks if JB is going to go around nicking famous cyclists quotes he should at least nick a decent one : "To prepare for a race there is
nothing better than a good pheasant, some champagne and a woman." 
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Joel
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| Posted: Fri 31/Oct/08 10:43am Post subject: |
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| danose wrote: | | Joel wrote: | | Joel thinks Lemond stole the quote from JB |
danose thinks if JB is going to go around nicking famous cyclists quotes he should at least nick a decent one : "To prepare for a race there is
nothing better than a good pheasant, some champagne and a woman." |
Joel said that
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