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DropKick
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I wish I were prime minister 
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happybaboon
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| Posted: Sun 26/Oct/08 9:25pm Post subject: |
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| jeremyb wrote: | | Lange's biggest failing was not seeing Rogernomics thru to the end, he pulled out too early. |
And your father not soon enough
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thorg
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| Posted: Sun 26/Oct/08 9:33pm Post subject: |
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| happybaboon wrote: | | jeremyb wrote: | | Lange's biggest failing was not seeing Rogernomics thru to the end, he pulled out too early. |
And your father not soon enough |
I can see what your trying to say there - but sence you make not 
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happybaboon
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| Posted: Sun 26/Oct/08 9:41pm Post subject: |
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| thorg wrote: | | happybaboon wrote: | | jeremyb wrote: | | Lange's biggest failing was not seeing Rogernomics thru to the end, he pulled out too early. |
And your father not soon enough |
I can see what your trying to say there - but sence you make not |
I'm pretty sure it makes sense. 
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DropKick
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| Posted: Sun 26/Oct/08 10:04pm Post subject: |
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I'm not a fan of labours ripping into John Key ads, you see:
I can trust labour to deliver on their promises 100%, only trouble is i think their policies are horsetihs.
or I can trust uncle John to deliver on his, I think the likelihood of him doing good is ~50%, so theres a 1/2 chance he'll do what I prefer in a government.
1/2 vs. none at all - wonder who wins
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RussS
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Location: Hamilton, NZ
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| Posted: Sun 26/Oct/08 10:47pm Post subject: |
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kcuf sakes - some of you fugging drop kicks are a total fugging joke  Just because I am not following your party line it follows in your tiny minds that I am swallowing some rhetoric. It is called Free Thinking chumps - I observe what happens in the world and make my decisions based on that. Once you grow up some and observe the world for a while and maybe see it from others perspectives you just might get a clue - until them STFU
I don't particularly like the guys in blue - but they sure as hell can not screw things up any worse than the lot we now have in power. If they stick to their guns and follow through with what they claim is their agenda they might get my vote next time around, but that will be a judgement call based on their performance.
The crowd in now has erroded my freedom and has worked wonders in creating a nanny state - screw that. They had my vore once, but have lied and cheated too much for me to trust them now. Once uncle Helen has moved on i might give them another look.
As for the rest - some great ideas from some good people, but for the most part the dead wood outweighs those that have good principals or great ideas.
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Scotty
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| Posted: Sun 26/Oct/08 11:05pm Post subject: |
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| RussS wrote: | | kcuf sakes - some of you fugging drop kicks are a total fugging joke Just because I am not following your party line it follows in your tiny minds that I am swallowing some rhetoric. |
Really? Pull out an original argument that doesn't come from a five second soundbite on the news or from talkback radio.
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therm1te
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Location: Hawkes Bay
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| Posted: Sun 26/Oct/08 11:18pm Post subject: |
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| RussS wrote: | | Jesus gnikcuf christ...fugging Einstiens...ssip off...tihs man...kcuf sakes...fugging drop kicks...total fugging joke...your tiny minds...chumps...STFU... |
Grow up
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cauld
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| Posted: Mon 27/Oct/08 7:02am Post subject: |
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| JK2 wrote: | | Antho_man wrote: | | Kazmeistyr wrote: | All good policies so far.
by introducing a "luxury" car tax. But this is not focussed enough, it's on anything above 60k, methinks - you can still buy plenty of gas guzzling bricks for well short of 40k.
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but i like my 100,000 merc that not fair |
luxy cars run cleaner and are safer. there should be a tax for tihsty vans with green party stickers that haven't been tuned since 1982 and spew black smoke |
They'll get on well with Cullen.. it's just a "rich kcirp" tax....
How much is a Prius new? Are they excluded? How about the Lexus hybrid SUV?
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thorg
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| Posted: Mon 27/Oct/08 8:17am Post subject: |
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what if my bike costs more than 60k 
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CrustyMTB
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| Posted: Mon 27/Oct/08 9:23am Post subject: |
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| RussS wrote: | | ... nanny state ... |
What do you mean nanny state? Is your opinion on this based around the so-called "anti-smacking" bill (which is mis-named and misses the point)? I've also heard the Bill of Rights, Health and Safety Act and the RMA described as "nanny statism" which shows confusion and a lack of understanding of the issues AND the legislation.
You may not have done am election round here before, but there are some well informed people and get used to "robust debate"...
So if your'e going to pull out | RussS wrote: | | Free Thinking... |
actually demonstrate some!
cause | RussS wrote: | | ... nanny state ... |
and | RussS wrote: | | Uncle Helen ... |
show you've not engaged in any thought, what will you pull out next, "reds under the beds"?, or some dancing cossacks? Or maybe a well informed comment about Political correctness?
I'll qualify my position, I have voted Labour for the last 3 elections, I won't be this year
because:
1) they seem to be jaded and dogged by complacency this term, ie the Benson Pope/Phillip Field (he deserves no honorific )/Winston Peters saga's, etc;
2) policy wise they appear to be more motivated by getting a 4th term than making the hard calls that need to be made, ie the backdown on the "fart-tax" (outside of the pros and cons of emmissions taxes) why should I subsidise a bunch of multi-millionaire businessmen? (cause that's what many dairy farmers are these days);
3) the lack of leadership on issues in health and education - the Capital Coast Health clusterkcuf, the failure to plan for the baby-boom that's currently happening;
4) the lack of anything approaching informed policy on prison sentences crime, we now have tougher sentences and a higher prison population than ANYWHERE comparable, but violent crime stats are rising,  it isn't hard to work out that the "solution" isn't working (time to maybe listen to people who are informed and study these area's rather than people whose total research in the area is talkback radio); and FINALLY
5) the constant mid-term second guessing and poll watching. Vote em in and leave to it, if you don't like the results, vote em out!
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benw
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| Posted: Mon 27/Oct/08 9:44am Post subject: |
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| thorg wrote: | | what if my bike costs more than 60k |
Then we'd know you were running a meth lab and / or Nigerian scam to pay for it.
And while I am against taxing on the basis of Envy I'd make an exception for a 60K push bike. But we'd call it a knawer tax instead.
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CrustyMTB
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| Posted: Mon 27/Oct/08 10:02am Post subject: |
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| benw wrote: | | thorg wrote: | | what if my bike costs more than 60k |
Then we'd know you were running a meth lab and / or Nigerian scam to pay for it.
And while I am against taxing on the basis of Envy I'd make an exception for a 60K push bike. But we'd call it a knawer tax instead. |
A Tax on knawing!!! No!!!!?!! It'd cripple the economy and hit some of us (not me of course ) really hard!!
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benw
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| Posted: Mon 27/Oct/08 10:06am Post subject: |
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| CrustyMTB wrote: | | benw wrote: | | thorg wrote: | | what if my bike costs more than 60k |
Then we'd know you were running a meth lab and / or Nigerian scam to pay for it.
And while I am against taxing on the basis of Envy I'd make an exception for a 60K push bike. But we'd call it a knawer tax instead. |
A Tax on knawing!!! No!!!!?!! It'd cripple the economy and hit some of us (not me of course ) really hard!! |
Yup, it would be a 'user flays' tax
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porscha
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Great theory But who the F's going to pay for it??
Whats the cost to do all this?
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