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Giantman
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i was out in western srings today for work so i dropped in at this reserve and by the looks of whats there its going to be tihsy xc loops with no real hils and not even a 40 second dh track, so its good we got some dirt but WE WANT SOME THING MORE ADVANCED
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Macatak
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| Posted: Wed 24/Oct/07 10:14pm Post subject: |
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Any progress?
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t8500
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Has anyone out there heard any news about the arch hill tracks, can find any thing on Auckland mtb club website.
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t8500
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I sent an email to Auckland MTB club asking what the happs is with these track, Marke sent me this back (thanks Marke for the quick reply)
"The tracks have been marked and surveyed but Auckland City Council is using its own contractors to actually build the tracks.
They are liaising closely with us so if they ask for help, we'll put out a newsletter and rally some tropps. I would not expect much input to be honest as Auckland CC are pretty conservative like that, but if they do need any, we'll let you know.
Cheers, Marke"
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Giantman
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so what the kcufs going on with this arch hill place.
or shal i keep building illegally
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t8500
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There is a digger in there making a walking track, i went for a sneaky look about 3 weeks ago, walking track was a bit like eskdale, but no stones or metal on it yet, about half to three quarters done.
The mtb trail is has not been started yet, i think it could be a 2 month or so before there will be any riding there, and a 90% chance it will be family xc styles.
Your gona have to keep building illegally because that the only way your gona get tracks that you like ( and i like ). If it could turn in to a mini eskdale i would be stoked.
will keep you update, i live 2mins down the road.
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Giantman
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cheers
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NZsquigg
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| t8500 wrote: | | will keep you update, i live 2mins down the road. |
Any updates?
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Giantman
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haha, this place is just another joke, and the bigger joke is labour politicians are harping on about how this is such a good project for the shore haha
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t8500
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| Posted: Sun 2nd Nov 6:08pm Post subject: |
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| NZsquigg wrote: | | t8500 wrote: | | will keep you update, i live 2mins down the road. |
Any updates? |
the walking track is done, no sign of any work to the mtb trail,l don't think will happen for a while yet aye and if the walking track is any thing to go by it will be short, about 1min maybe 130 max.
so ye bit tihs just gona go to eskdale and ride there 
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radiusq
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Grafton Gully was always the place to put a legit inner-city trail. There's both space and gradient.
I'm not familiar with Arch Hill, but the images from google maps don't look promising.
All I can see is that I'm glad I live in Christchurch these days. Primo trail riding out of my back door.
Unfortunately, mountainbikers in Auckland will just need to take a leaf from skateboarders and go out and make a nuisance of themselves. Sooner or later you'll get what you need. Trying to go through the legit path is just too slow. I hope I'm wrong but Arch Hill looks rubbish. If that's all that's been produced from the hard work of the Auckland MTB club and Peter Stoneham after all those *years* then that just isn't on.
There is plenty of unused public space around the place, and correct me if I'm wrong, but Auckland mountainbikers are a non insignificant part of Auckland's public.
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Giantman
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| radiusq wrote: | Grafton Gully was always the place to put a legit inner-city trail. There's both space and gradient.
I'm not familiar with Arch Hill, but the images from google maps don't look promising.
All I can see is that I'm glad I live in Christchurch these days. Primo trail riding out of my back door.
Unfortunately, mountainbikers in Auckland will just need to take a leaf from skateboarders and go out and make a nuisance of themselves. Sooner or later you'll get what you need. Trying to go through the legit path is just too slow. I hope I'm wrong but Arch Hill looks rubbish. If that's all that's been produced from the hard work of the Auckland MTB club and Peter Stoneham after all those *years* then that just isn't on.
There is plenty of unused public space around the place, and correct me if I'm wrong, but Auckland mountainbikers area non insignificant part of Auckland's public. |
you are dead right mate, nothing has happened in the whole time auckland mtb club has been around, and after attending a xc race recently it has totally put me off having anything to do with the club, hence i will just continue to build in the local patches of bush.
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radiusq
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| Posted: Sun 2nd Nov 8:51pm Post subject: |
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| Giantman wrote: |
you are dead right mate, nothing has happened in the whole time auckland mtb club has been around, and after attending a xc race recently it has totally put me off having anything to do with the club, hence i will just continue to build in the local patches of bush. |
I wasn't knocking the work of Auckland MTB btw, from what I've seen they've put in the hard yards to get this happening at all. I believe it's the City councilors just not giving a damn.
This snippet from (http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/4192506a6016.html) shows how much they really care for mountainbiking:
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Western Bays Community Board chairman Graeme Easte says it would also provide the impetus for work to clear weeds and restore native vegetation.
He would support the plan if bike trails were kept separate from two existing walking tracks.
"I think it's possible for them to co-exist," he says.
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So mountainbiking is good when it can be used as an excuse to plant new natives and walkers don't have to look at them. The fact that this new mountainbiking area could in theory give enjoyment to hundreds if not thousands of members of the public is apparently neither here nor there.
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blackadder63
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As a committee member of the club, I invite any one who has an interest in making trails in Auckland City Council reserves to come on board for a year or 2 and work on trail advocacy. The biggest problem is there only 7 of us on committee running club rides, race series, sponsor liason, membership, funding applications, Junior development, and we have had our plates really full (we are volunteers often with our own businesses to run and family to be involved with...and we like to have time to get out and ride too!). We now have the biggest paid up membership ever, so when we go to council we now represent a very large number of off road cyclists. Geoff Olliff has made ALOT of headway in developing a relationship with Auckland City Council and Marke Jennings-Temple works in a business that works really closely with the City Councils in Auckland, so we have some good contacts who are MTB'ers within council. The guts of it is North Shore at least have a plan for mountain biking and are quite a way into developing Sanders Reserve, while Auckland City Council fart around with no plan (Arch Hill, Hamlins Hill, Grafton Gully,... and there is plenty more). Ask Pete Stoneham how hard it was to make any headway as UTB... I take my hat off to the guy! Even Pete will concede that he was heard at a higher level when he was being vocal within the club than going off and doing his own thing as an individual. If people put as much energy into forums like this hctibing about the lack of results by a hand full of people trying to do it through the proper chanels, collectively we would achieve a lot more. The effort and comments viewed here arent seen by those making the decisions at council, so we would love to have some extra enthusiasm stirring the pot. Please feel free to contact me if you would like to become involved....other MTB'ers would appreciate your effort.
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Giantman
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| Posted: Sun 2nd Nov 10:59pm Post subject: |
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i have tried many times now with letters, emails and even going into the council office and asking to speak to a parks officer and have been either ignored or told to ssip off.
i sent a email and had a conversation over the phone with some one in the club about some where more appropriate then sanders reserve and never heard back from them.
i can understand your point for veiw of it being volunteers and you have your own lives to tend to aswell, i am self employed. As for joining the club, i didnt find people very friendly at a recent xc race, so why would i want to get involved, i understand its hard work and that but a smile and a quick hey hows it going makes a big difference.
good work on the race the organisation was great but the track was lacking places to pass that werent up damn hills on gravel roads.
sorry to be having a hctib on here but i read at the top mtb tracks given go ahead but there still not there.
i wish you and the club the best of luck with doing things the right way. youll find me some where illegal doing some illegal digging.
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