Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 3,988 Location: Wellington
Posted: Thu 17th Jul 6:02pm Post subject:
JumpR wrote:
CaptainCaveman wrote:
No one actually believes any of this parc, do they?
The interweb lies
The favourite one liner in my house still is:
Hubby : "Where did you buy that"? (it was a tent)
Me: Off Vorb.
Hubby : "I've told you don't buy stuff like that off the inter-webby"
Me: "I didn't buy it off the interwebby - I bought it off Vorb!"
Trek hasn't made interesting bikes for a very long time. Recently they hired the former head engineer at Manitou. What do you know - now they have some decent bikes coming out now...
Ah thanks for that, I was looking at the 09's yesterday and wondered who was getting their tihs together.
The new floater design is interesting. Makes a hanger tool particularly hard to use though.
They seem to work alright too, a girl I ended up riding with at the first 2 N-duros was a weapon on the downhills on her one. Hers was uber bling.
This just in: Ross aboard a Trek Remedy wins all mountain world championship. Crushes two favored SC riders on the latest VPP iteration! New VPP failz!
Racing aboard an all-new for 2008 Trek Remedy, Trek/VW team rider “Rad” Ross Schnell won this year’s 13th annual Downieville Classic All-Mountain Race, setting two course records and taking home World Championship honors in the process.
"Downieville’s no longer a one-horse town,” said “Rad” Ross, commenting on a performance that might finally put to rest the bragging of three-time All-Mountain Champ Jason Moeschler and seven-time Downhill Champ Mark Weir. Several other high profile athletes pulled up to the start line—including Brian Lopes, Myles Rockwell, Andreas Hestler and Kurt Voreis—in a quest to claim the prestigious title.
News Source: Eric Schutt
Heralded as the unofficial ‘All Mountain World Championships', the Downieville Classic in Downieville, California has become a much talked about event. Racers compete on the same bike for both the 29 mile XC point-to-point race as well as the epic 17 mile DH course.
Ross Schnell (Trek-Volkswagon) won both the XC and the DH event, therefore solidly claiming the overall title. Not only did Schnell win both events, he set a course record in each discipline. Ross won pedaling his Trek Remedy 9 with a RockShox Lyrik Solo Air suspension fork and RockShox Monarch 4.2 rear shock.
Schnell had this to say about his victories, “It was fun coming away with a couple wins and a couple course records. It was a stacked field with a bunch of big-hitting riders. The record course runs feel really good, because Mark Weir had an open course, while I started 43rd and had to pass 9 guys. I ate dust the whole run, but I did it. I am so stoked.”
Miles Rockwell competed at Downieville for his first time, and finished 4th in the DH. Miles raced on SRAM X.0 trigger shifters and rear derailleur, RockShox ‘09 Revelation fork and Monarch 4.2 rear shock, Avid Elixir R disc brakes, and a Truvativ Noir crankset
Rachel Lloyd (Santa Cruz) won the Women's All Mountain racing on SRAM X.0 trigger shifters and rear derailleur, Avid Juicy Ultimate disc brakes, and Truvativ Noir crankset. Susan Haywood (Trek-Volkswagon) claimed 2nd place in the Women's All Mountain event on her Trek Fuel EX 9.5 with a RockShox Revelation suspension fork.
Damn I shouldn't have switched to the BLT2 from the Remedy 8
You guys can probably score some deals on those trash VPP bikes now
Joined: Dec 01, 2002 Posts: 12,358 Location: blurrrrrrrrrred
Posted: Fri 18th Jul 7:15am Post subject:
syadasti wrote:
banga wrote:
musket wrote:
Scotty wrote:
syadasti wrote:
Trek hasn't made interesting bikes for a very long time. Recently they hired the former head engineer at Manitou. What do you know - now they have some decent bikes coming out now...
Ah thanks for that, I was looking at the 09's yesterday and wondered who was getting their tihs together.
The new floater design is interesting. Makes a hanger tool particularly hard to use though.
They seem to work alright too, a girl I ended up riding with at the first 2 N-duros was a weapon on the downhills on her one. Hers was uber bling.
This just in: Ross aboard a Trek Remedy wins all mountain world championship. Crushes two favored SC riders on the latest VPP iteration! New VPP failz!
Racing aboard an all-new for 2008 Trek Remedy, Trek/VW team rider “Rad” Ross Schnell won this year’s 13th annual Downieville Classic All-Mountain Race, setting two course records and taking home World Championship honors in the process.
"Downieville’s no longer a one-horse town,” said “Rad” Ross, commenting on a performance that might finally put to rest the bragging of three-time All-Mountain Champ Jason Moeschler and seven-time Downhill Champ Mark Weir. Several other high profile athletes pulled up to the start line—including Brian Lopes, Myles Rockwell, Andreas Hestler and Kurt Voreis—in a quest to claim the prestigious title.
News Source: Eric Schutt
Heralded as the unofficial ‘All Mountain World Championships', the Downieville Classic in Downieville, California has become a much talked about event. Racers compete on the same bike for both the 29 mile XC point-to-point race as well as the epic 17 mile DH course.
Ross Schnell (Trek-Volkswagon) won both the XC and the DH event, therefore solidly claiming the overall title. Not only did Schnell win both events, he set a course record in each discipline. Ross won pedaling his Trek Remedy 9 with a RockShox Lyrik Solo Air suspension fork and RockShox Monarch 4.2 rear shock.
Schnell had this to say about his victories, “It was fun coming away with a couple wins and a couple course records. It was a stacked field with a bunch of big-hitting riders. The record course runs feel really good, because Mark Weir had an open course, while I started 43rd and had to pass 9 guys. I ate dust the whole run, but I did it. I am so stoked.”
Miles Rockwell competed at Downieville for his first time, and finished 4th in the DH. Miles raced on SRAM X.0 trigger shifters and rear derailleur, RockShox ‘09 Revelation fork and Monarch 4.2 rear shock, Avid Elixir R disc brakes, and a Truvativ Noir crankset
Rachel Lloyd (Santa Cruz) won the Women's All Mountain racing on SRAM X.0 trigger shifters and rear derailleur, Avid Juicy Ultimate disc brakes, and Truvativ Noir crankset. Susan Haywood (Trek-Volkswagon) claimed 2nd place in the Women's All Mountain event on her Trek Fuel EX 9.5 with a RockShox Revelation suspension fork.
Damn I shouldn't have switched to the BLT2 from the Remedy 8
You guys can probably score some deals on those trash VPP bikes now
Yes I know its the rider, not the bike
hey buddy take your trash talk elsewhere and start your own Trek thread
Joined: Nov 13, 2005 Posts: 5,189 Location: Skyway
Posted: Fri 18th Jul 10:09am Post subject:
musket wrote:
Spokes wrote:
musket wrote:
Spokes wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Spokes wrote:
Now days DW and VPP bikes tend to be the winning bikes(in general).
Dude, put Sammie, Rennie, Minaar and Peaty on a shopping trolley and they'd still probably waste the most of the feild.
Interestingly, Kovarik hasn't gone anywhere near what he did on his m1.
Must need more Slayer...
Yes but on a bad bike they would suffer if the others had better bikes.
Spokes, you're talking tihs.
Most of the designs are so close in performance that the difference is the rider. Not to mention part of these guys' incredible skill is adapting to the quirks of the bike they ride (and every bike has them).
So you are saying that if one of them was on an old M1 and the others were on current bikes that the one on the M1 wouldnt have to work harder to remain on the pace?
See Robbie's post above.
I'm saying of the designs currently in use, the differences are so slight, that the RIDER is the deciding factor. Also, factor in your knaw about certain designs producing victories, rather than the money behind promoting them facilitating athletes.
See Robbie's post above.
Just a final note, a lot of the winning M1s were single piviot.
Hmm I don't see how a Specialized system can place the VPP high enough to resist squat and bob without heinous amounts of chain growth.(or Propedal) .
But the system does allow for really good rear end braking traction.
But it aint outdated, it can do many things better than a single pivot, which is still very much alive and well and fitted to many very fun bikes.
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