Does anyone have much info on these puppies?  They look set to be the 2009 BoXXers.    All I know is they are Rockshox Black ... 
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Rockshox Blackbox Prototype Fork (09 Boxxers??)


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PostPosted: Fri 27th Jun 9:57pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

Is that a dent in the right stanchion in the third pic?
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Doubt it, thats peatys bike
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yakuza wrote:
Is that a dent in the right stanchion in the third pic?

wea? i cnt c 1?
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Chickenman wrote:
I can't believe I missed that!

I knew 18 months ago that BoXXer was a likely candidate for Mission control. And it would have bigger legs, but obviously couldn't say anything.

It's about time, back to adjustments available in gen 1 and 2 BoXXers, just without having to completely disassemble it to adjust high speed compression.


Mr Chickenman, do you reckon the new one wil be able to reduce to 7"?
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joshb_dh wrote:
yakuza wrote:
Is that a dent in the right stanchion in the third pic?

wea? i cnt c 1?


Obviously the new fork model numbers, those can't be words. WEA = Weather Externally Actuated? The fork reacts to weather conditions?
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Soba wrote:
joshb_dh wrote:
yakuza wrote:
Is that a dent in the right stanchion in the third pic?

wea? i cnt c 1?


Obviously the new fork model numbers, those can't be words. WEA = Weather Externally Actuated? The fork reacts to weather conditions?

Exactly. look at the lowers closely. Big Grin
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Spokes wrote:
Chickenman wrote:
I can't believe I missed that!

I knew 18 months ago that BoXXer was a likely candidate for Mission control. And it would have bigger legs, but obviously couldn't say anything.

It's about time, back to adjustments available in gen 1 and 2 BoXXers, just without having to completely disassemble it to adjust high speed compression.


Mr Chickenman, do you reckon the new one wil be able to reduce to 7"?


If its solo air still it will be a piece of ssip to reduce the travel, just a spacer under the air piston
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Soba wrote:
joshb_dh wrote:
yakuza wrote:
Is that a dent in the right stanchion in the third pic?

wea? i cnt c 1?


Obviously the new fork model numbers, those can't be words. WEA = Weather Externally Actuated? The fork reacts to weather conditions?


Quick!
Get wkdrider to decipher the code!
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PostPosted: Fri 27th Jun 10:36pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

Dirt has about 4 pages on these and other black box stuff. For now they'rejust trying it but the main changes are 34mm legs, mission control and ditching the solo air.
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PostPosted: Fri 27th Jun 11:35pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

Spokes wrote:
Chickenman wrote:
I can't believe I missed that!

I knew 18 months ago that BoXXer was a likely candidate for Mission control. And it would have bigger legs, but obviously couldn't say anything.

It's about time, back to adjustments available in gen 1 and 2 BoXXers, just without having to completely disassemble it to adjust high speed compression.


Mr Chickenman, do you reckon the new one wil be able to reduce to 7"?


My uniformed educated guess says 'trust british paints sure can'
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PostPosted: Sat 28th Jun 8:04am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

Hmmm, may be good for next project bike.
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PostPosted: Sat 28th Jun 9:43am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

JohnnyC wrote:
Soba wrote:
Frankly i'm surprised Mission Control isn't on a Boxxer already


From what I understand, its something to do with the bigger stanchions of the Lyric and Totem. There is more air volume inside the 35 & 40mm forks so the increase of pressure inside the fork is less when compared to the 32mm boxxer, especially when comparing the air sprung versions.

This makes the bigger forks more linear so being able to control the high speed compression is a big advantage and stops it blowing through too much travel. The Boxxer is naturally more progressive due to less air volume inside it so externally adjustable High speed compression damping wasn't as important. (you could still change it internally though )


Note: I may be completely wrong, I remember being told something along those lines by SRAM though, can't remember the details but thats how it seems to me


Very true. Its in that dirt issue ive got sitting by me here. Hence the reason RS dont make a DH air shock. Yet.
I thought i posted a big blurb about it somwhere....
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