| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
tylersdad
Ridden
Joined: Sep 06, 2007
Posts: 172
|
 Posted: Mon 5th May 9:11pm Post subject: Gwrc Transport Survey - The Report |
  |
|
this should link to the report. http://www.gw.govt.nz/section1159.cfm?MeetingID=6578. hen go to Transport (7). in short, it is still a first come first served basis, limit 2 or 3 bikes,(and they better be clean people). i am not sure where they get the statistics from in regards 200 spaces available at peak time, but on the ONE survey day only 26 cyclists turned up at wgtn rail to use the trains. the question i have is - what way were the cyclists headed? as most people head into town. i presume the 26 were a total of both ways. but as the survey says, if you are not g/teed a place why risk turning up when you may not get on the train and therefore risk missing out on meeting your mates for a ride. also there is the risk of not getting back from Featherson if you ride over for a day trip (how scary - spending a night in featherston) thas enough to make me cycle back over the Rima's !!!!  
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Tristan
Scuffed
![]()
Joined: Apr 15, 2003
Posts: 437
Location: Building wheels
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 8:52am Post subject: |
|
|
Did you see the article in last weeks Hutt News?
The reply from Graeme Mowday, Marketing Manager for Trans Metro, clearly shows that cyclists are not a priority for his company.
|
|
| Description: |
|
| Filesize: |
751.62 KB |
| Viewed: |
1089 Time(s) |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tylersdad
Ridden
Joined: Sep 06, 2007
Posts: 172
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 2:42pm Post subject: |
|
|
i fully support Angela. we ride over there from time to time, and while waiting have a few cold ones at the pub. it has been my greatest worry that we would be left stranded, 1/2 cut, and ill prepared to ride home because of the actions of a guard. 3 of us purchased tix from wgtn rail at the booth and told the attendant which train (inc paying for bikes) then when we went to get on the train the guard said no as there was already one bike on it. we protested and said why did the attendant sell us tix when he knew the limitation rule. we were also meeting others in UH to ride that day to featherston. so we started late.
Perhaps we need a sign at the summit which you write on saying the date, and how many of you there are getting the train back- saves arriving to find 20 of us at the featherston station. also, what happens if people get on at masterton with bikes - riding to featherston really can be hazardous to your health.
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sifter
Moving forward
Joined: Nov 13, 2003
Posts: 10,812
Location: Wellington
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 3:50pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Tristan wrote: | Did you see the article in last weeks Hutt News?
The reply from Graeme Mowday, Marketing Manager for Trans Metro, clearly shows that cyclists are not a priority for his company. |
Pretty dratered that they couldn't be allowed to have their bikes in the wheelchair space between Featherston and the first stop in the Valley at least. Who's going to get on in between stations...?
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tristan
Scuffed
![]()
Joined: Apr 15, 2003
Posts: 437
Location: Building wheels
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 4:10pm Post subject: |
|
|
I also don't understand why bikes cannot be taken onto the passenger area of the train (for "safety reasons") yet prams and buggies can. In the event of needing to exit the train quickly I would say that these two objects would pose a similar threat?
Was the pun intentional? 
| sifter wrote: | | Pretty dratered that they couldn't be allowed to have their bikes in the wheelchair space between Featherston and the first stop in the Valley at least. Who's going to get on in between stations...? |
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Joel
Wrecked
Joined: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 5,830
Location: Welly
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 4:24pm Post subject: |
|
|
you can't comparae prams/buggies with bikes. for one, there would be a HUGE public outcry if they banned prams/buggies. whereas they could ban bikes and might be a little bit of fan fare but overall no one would care in the general population.
unfortunate but thats how it is.
interesting to see what happens with the government owning the rails now.. rolling stock upgrades? although i think they will be more concerned with AKL than WLG, which has some new stock coming on stream over next year or two anyway.
BUT if petrol keeps rising and hits over 2.50.. the trains will be jam packed..and more people cycling i reckon.
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tristan
Scuffed
![]()
Joined: Apr 15, 2003
Posts: 437
Location: Building wheels
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 4:41pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Joel wrote: | you can't comparae prams/buggies with bikes. for one, there would be a HUGE public outcry if they banned prams/buggies. whereas they could ban bikes and might be a little bit of fan fare but overall no one would care in the general population.
|
Agree, however from a safety point of view I think they are very comparible.
| Quote: |
BUT if petrol keeps rising and hits over 2.50.. the trains will be jam packed..and more people cycling i reckon. |
I don't buy it. With every petrol price milestone you hear the same things, however people just bite the bullet, fill up the tank and winge and moan about the price.
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tylersdad
Ridden
Joined: Sep 06, 2007
Posts: 172
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 4:42pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
i don't think its nice to lump dratered and wheelchair in the same category Tristan. do you want to retract that quote about 'was pun intentional'.
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tristan
Scuffed
![]()
Joined: Apr 15, 2003
Posts: 437
Location: Building wheels
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 4:44pm Post subject: |
|
|
| tylersdad wrote: | | i don't think its nice to lump dratered and wheelchair in the same category Tristan. do you want to retract that quote about 'was pun intentional'. |
Certainly no lumping going on at my end. I understand there is a large difference and that it's a touchy subject, I was just highlighting a choice of words.
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Joel
Wrecked
Joined: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 5,830
Location: Welly
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 4:53pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Tristan wrote: | | I don't buy it. With every petrol price milestone you hear the same things, however people just bite the bullet, fill up the tank and winge and moan about the price. |
i don't know about that.. the commuter numbers are way up.. and whats the tipping point? when you start looking at a couple of hundy to fill up?
but in saying that, the cost of petrol could drop pretty quickly if the political situation stabilises where it counts. at the moment it's being hedged like like basdrat.. not due to lack of supply per se.
BTW sifter would not have intended offence, and purely accidental grouping in the same sentence.
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ssipface
Boneshaker
Joined: Jan 28, 2003
Posts: 17,432
Location: Planet Claire
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 5:03pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Tristan wrote: | Did you see the article in last weeks Hutt News?
The reply from Graeme Mowday, Marketing Manager for Trans Metro, clearly shows that cyclists are not a priority for his company. |
did you read the bit where the manager said an extra luggage van had been introduced, but it was unfortunate that it had not come into effect at that time?
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tristan
Scuffed
![]()
Joined: Apr 15, 2003
Posts: 437
Location: Building wheels
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 5:07pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Joel wrote: |
i don't know about that.. the commuter numbers are way up.. and whats the tipping point? when you start looking at a couple of hundy to fill up?
|
It's been a while since I've taken a commuter train, however I've noticed that the cars on the motorway in the morning still only have one person in each of them. I think it will take more than an increase in petrol price for the average person to substantially change their behavior.
I think many people would like to use more public transport however it's a catch-22 situation that the current systems are being filled to capacity making trips unenjoyable which deters people from using them. Prehaps with a large investment in infactstrutre and commication between the various forms of public transprot this could be improved?
Cycling has it's own problems as a form of commuter transport and it generally requires workplaces which are cyclist-friendly and offer bike storage and shower facilities. These are certainly on the increase which is very positive and hopefully this will continue as employers see the benefits.
@ssipface: I did see that, thanks. Maybe I was reading it with jaded eyes but I got the impression Mr Mowday wasn't too sympathetic with the writers problems.
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ssipface
Boneshaker
Joined: Jan 28, 2003
Posts: 17,432
Location: Planet Claire
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 5:11pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
I did get the impression that the manager was carefully avoiding expressing willingness to say "sorry".
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Colin
Scheming Dreaming about Singletrack
Joined: Jun 08, 2003
Posts: 5,054
Location: Wellitrack
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 5:27pm Post subject: |
|
|
Six months ago the tipping point would have been $2.00
Peeps are too comfortable in their cars to do much more than whine and suck it up.
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Robbie
stonemason
Joined: Sep 07, 2004
Posts: 11,211
Location: Wellington
|
| Posted: Tue 6th May 5:47pm Post subject: |
|
|
People drive cars because they can do as they please alone, with little compromise. Even if that means creeping along the road in a log jam.
So I think that very few people will ever share a car, no matter what the cost saving.. 
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
