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herbman
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| Tama wrote: | | herbman wrote: | | inzane wrote: | | and here people were thinking that the strong nz dollar would hold the price down some... |
some people don't think the nz$ is strong, its just that the US$ is so weak it makes ours look strong |
Yarp - I realized this too. We've got so used to comparing ourselves with the U.S. that it seems like we're in a better state than we actually are.
Best to start comparing the NZD against a more stable currency - like the Euro:
NZD vs Euro
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we get paid in US$ for our fruit that goes overseas, the the low US$ has hurt us more this year that everything else going up has, eg fuel, labour etc......
would be nice to be paid in euros
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herbman
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| Posted: Wed 16th Apr 2:10pm Post subject: |
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| Prof. Badtouch wrote: | | Butch wrote: | Yay, more doom and gloom. 
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Speculation about the future is something that anyone can appear ot be an expert on, because it can't be falsified in the present, and when the future comes everybody will have forgotten about the predictions and be worried about something new.  |
or it could be the fact that some of us are dealing with it now and geting ready to weather the storm.
and if the storm doesn't come well we will have more $ to spend on flash bike bling and beer
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E Dogg Capizzle
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| Posted: Wed 16th Apr 2:13pm Post subject: |
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| herbman wrote: |
and if the storm doesn't come well we will have more $ to spend on flash bike bling and beer |
But how can you tell the the "storm" isn't perpetually just around the corner?
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herbman
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| Posted: Wed 16th Apr 2:23pm Post subject: |
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| Prof. Badtouch wrote: | | herbman wrote: |
and if the storm doesn't come well we will have more $ to spend on flash bike bling and beer |
But how can you tell the the "storm" isn't perpetually just around the corner? |
its aways around the corner sometimes you just don't know where the corner is.
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Nick_K
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Meh, I'm not sure I believe prices are going to "skyyrocket"
Really how much cost of the bike is made up of raw materials and cheap chinese/taiwanise labour?
Ive heard this story before an yet I don't feel bikes are significantly more expensive than when I started riding 5years ago (although my tastess have )
Anyway no matter how much they cost for the amount of smiles they give me they will always be a bargin.
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musket
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Factor in the rising price of transport for ALL steps nick. Materials (and the cost increase that goes with having to pay more for fuel to extract resources) transport, construction / manufacture costs, trasnport, transport, the fact a huge % of NZ dollar (therefore exchange rate) is made up of fuel money, and it's fairly logical.
If not, what's going to account for these increased costs?
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Nick_K
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| Posted: Wed 16th Apr 2:47pm Post subject: |
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I'm not saying price won't go up I just believe "skyrocket" is possibly overstating the situation.
What constitues a "skyrocket" these days, 50%?
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musket
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I think 20-25% would. Imagine if the bikes of your current tastes went up that much...
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jraanimation
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There's going to be a really good answer for this, but I don't know.
Most bikes are made of alloy whats the price of steel going up got to do with it?
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phunk
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As the price for oil goes up, the demand for cars will drop and production will switch to bicyles as the demand for them grows, factor in some technilogical improvements and viola, prices will in fact drop.
See, any economist can make stuff up about the future.
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| Posted: Wed 16th Apr 2:55pm Post subject: |
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| musket wrote: | | I think 20-25% would. Imagine if the bikes of your current tastes went up that much... |
Yup, 25-30% is the range I think were looking at. Bikes have never been cheaper than they have right now I believe.
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Nick_K
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| Spokes wrote: |
Yup, 25-30% is the range I think were looking at. |
So Intenses will be really really really overpriced now (while giant on the otherhand will still be great value for money )
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phunk
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Ever thought that the BIANZ was trying to scaremonger everyone into buying bikes now? They are hardly an independent body are they?
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Spokes
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| Nick_K wrote: | | Spokes wrote: |
Yup, 25-30% is the range I think were looking at. |
So Intenses will be really really really overpriced now (while giant on the otherhand will still be great value for money ) |
no I think the gap between them will close as US labour has not changed. I cant see US sourced product going up much apart from the cost of freight. Chinese sourced product will go up.
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Nick_K
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| Spokes wrote: | | Nick_K wrote: | | Spokes wrote: |
Yup, 25-30% is the range I think were looking at. |
So Intenses will be really really really overpriced now (while giant on the otherhand will still be great value for money ) |
no I think the gap between them will close as US labour has not changed. I cant see US sourced product going up much apart from the cost of freight. Chinese sourced product will go up. |
 You where meant to make some witty remark about how tihs Giants are.
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