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danose
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| ashesman wrote: | | And its not the groms, from my expereience up there in the rain its the cross country guys that go out riding in the wet, we DHers are too lazy or soft or something! |
yep - you're not wrong - I've noticed the worst offenders for riding wet tracks when they should know better is your typical 40-something weekend warrior, probably down to the old 'sunday afternoon is the only time I'm allowed away from the kids to go ride so I'm going no matter what' syndrome
unfortunately they're also the worst offenders for riding down wet tracks with their back brake locked (cos they don't ride enough to have the skills any more)
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Percy Pig
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 12:38pm Post subject: |
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Just ride Worsely's! 
If you can get down that in the wet without binning it, you'll be doing bloody well!  
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inzane
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 12:51pm Post subject: |
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| ashesman wrote: | | What about the new bowenvale track? That is wide and fast at the top (hehehehe wet grass!). |
yeh, the top bit is fine... it is just the bit to get from the pylon at the bottom of the zigzags down to Bowenvale that would worry me. Riding that singletrack in the wet would wreck it pretty quick...
Mt Vernon farm track is currently covered in grass... that would be skidtastic on a wet day...
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inzane
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 12:52pm Post subject: |
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Oh and re Worsleys... if we are talking a DH trail we are talking shuttles... Shuttling Worsleys is not really any further than shuttleing vic park
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danose
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 12:55pm Post subject: |
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| ashesman wrote: | | What about the new bowenvale track? That is wide and fast at the top (hehehehe wet grass!). |
top is good - but the bottom is having enough issues with xc mongs who won't keep off it in the wet (it gets little sun) - don't think pedalingkiwi will be keen to have all those man hours spent building thos beautiful berms wasted
what about a line besids the mt vernon farm park track - little visual impact (only the odd mad walker/runner goes up there - it's kind of steep). And there's even a nice big car park at the bottom for pick ups
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danose
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 1:00pm Post subject: |
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| inzane wrote: | | Oh and re Worsleys... if we are talking a DH trail we are talking shuttles... Shuttling Worsleys is not really any further than shuttleing vic park |
trouble is lack of drop though - the seal goes up to the level of the takahe (so for the driver that's a lot of extra uphill per shuttle), also it's a bit short (though in the wet that might be good - less distance to walk down when you crash and burn disastrously trashing the bike)
should look into getting it sponsored by HQ - nothing like a wet conditions DH track to generate workshop turnover
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davie-b
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 4:32pm Post subject: |
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fence line?
When we open that up and get some turns going it will be mint in the wet?
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dh_winner
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 5:01pm Post subject: |
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| davie-b wrote: | fence line?
When we open that up and get some turns going it will be mint in the wet? |
hmm thats an idea, the only problem being is il links into flow and bridge and they get real beaten up and rough in the wet. Maybe a different, more hidden exit track could be rigged? Ill bring it up with Nick
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Mt Vernon farm track is currently covered in grass... that would be skidtastic on a wet day... |
Yep it is. I managed a 200-300m skid on the xc bike a coupla weeks ago. Just did the old stem hump and just cruzed on down doing big snakeys. The mrs was cracking up.
Vernom is also out because any track down there can be seen from some other point on the hills hence the dreaded "visual impact".
(to give you an idea how lana this is, when we built "pons" track it had to be parrallel to the 4wd track to minimise the "impact". We were going to have it on the palteu above and link it in above the stepup but that got killed pretty quick)
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danose
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 5:17pm Post subject: |
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| dh_winner wrote: |
hmm thats an idea, the only problem being is il links into flow and bridge and they get real beaten up and rough in the wet. Maybe a different, more hidden exit track could be rigged? Ill bring it up with Nick
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there is the old DH track going down from near the top of flow - used to come out near the exit of lava flow - the exit is now boarded up though
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(to give you an idea how lana this is, when we built "pons" track it had to be parrallel to the 4wd track to minimise the "impact". We were going to have it on the palteu above and link it in above the stepup but that got killed pretty quick) |
it's all a bit mad - the number of walkers on that track under the 4wd track is close to zero (indeed I think very few people know it's there - probably a good thing since it dumps you out on bridge/flow). More to the point, when you've got a 4wd track that it maintained ala bulldozer, any singletrack is barely noticable!!
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dh_winner
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 5:21pm Post subject: |
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| danose wrote: | | dh_winner wrote: |
hmm thats an idea, the only problem being is il links into flow and bridge and they get real beaten up and rough in the wet. Maybe a different, more hidden exit track could be rigged? Ill bring it up with Nick
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there is the old DH track going down from near the top of flow - used to come out near the exit of lava flow - the exit is now boarded up though
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yea i know the one. it was raced inthe Texco series a few years back, the one with all the steps. Might have a looksie at that. Still means creek gap gets the tihs chewed out of it and thats generally one of the wetest sections on the hill. Maybe a sludge run down the creek instead of over it 
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ashesman
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 5:32pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | yea i know the one. it was raced inthe Texco series a few years back, the one with all the steps. Might have a looksie at that. Still means creek gap gets the tihs chewed out of it and thats generally one of the wetest sections on the hill. Maybe a sludge run down the creek instead of over it |
I would be keen to give creek gap another tidy up and put some more chip down. It lasted quite well last time and is starting to get rutted and sloppy and hence holding water. That section is the main track out of vic park for everybody and is getting a bit chewed. Hitting that creek gap with the greasy mud in front of it is only going to end up with someone (probably me) face planting the landing one day!
Not sure if many people would ride that track that links flow and the end of lava flow in the wet. It is pretty steep and rocky and not really forgiving if you fall off! A wet track should probably be less steep and quite wide so that you can still go fast if you have the balls but still safe if you aren't so confident or are riding wearing your spandex and riding an XC 3" travel bike with slicks on!
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dh_winner
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yea, true. it probably would get interesting down there on a big bike with spike atm come to think of it...
Yep creek gepas dodgy. I was riding with someone last weekend and they started drifting as they went off the lip... To get chip down there now it would be Power carriers only. Still, could do wioth a few loads in the near future, save it getting too bad.
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slowMTB
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 7:08pm Post subject: |
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Is fence line even used these days? i went down it about a month ago with a friend and at one point we had to push through bush to get to the track on the other side, didn't seem like it had seen any action for quite some time. The last section of open track just before the drop through the pines / roots and then onto the bridge has a really nasty rut the width of your tyre and deep ( last minute panic braking no doubt ) - I managed to get my front caught in it and went over ( just my luck ). Anyway - I think it really has some potential, some nice runs and a few drops, down hill turns etc AAAAAAAAAAND it gets wet in the rain thats for sure
Getting down from the end without chewing up other tracks is the biggest issue though ( I opted to head straight for the 4wd track to get down this particular day ).
My 2c and happy to get this one off the ground
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joshb_dh
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 7:18pm Post subject: |
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| dh_winner wrote: | | yea, true. it probably would get interesting down there on a big bike with spike atm come to think of it... |
that track is awsome........... in the dry.
those rubber/plastic things are f!@king scary in the wet 
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freddie
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 8:02pm Post subject: |
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fence line would be sick in the wet that bit after it though u were talkin about would be pretty savage in the wet i would be worried bout falling off the side of that cliff when u hop over those rocks lol
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