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Jesus-Scotland
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Why dont we build a trail - or rather cut a trail (not do any major actual work) for people to practice riding in the wet. That way people are more likley to pay attention to the closed trails and not wreck them when it rains. what you all think?
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mattyfreerida
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| Posted: Sun 29th Jun 2:39pm Post subject: RE: Wet Dh Trail? |
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| Jesus-Scotland wrote: | | Why dont we build a trail - or rather cut a trail (not do any major actual work) for people to practice riding in the wet. That way people are more likley to pay attention to the closed trails and not wreck them when it rains. what you all think? |
what are you going to do when the wet trail is wrecked
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freddie
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who cares if it gets wrecked thats a good idea that will mean it will just make it harder
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dh_winner
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yep i have thought of that. There is a few ways to build it so that as it get putted out it get better. The problem is there is nowhere really to put it at the moment. You dont want it near existing DH tracks so people dont get tempted but you cant have it in the open because of "visual impact". If anyone knows somwhere where we are allowed to build a wet only track, let me know and ill organise a dig day or two there.
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dh_winner
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| Posted: Sun 29th Jun 3:44pm Post subject: |
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Currently if you want to ride in the wet, shuttle worsleys 4wd track. Thats a challange pinned!
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danose
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| Posted: Sun 29th Jun 3:44pm Post subject: RE: Wet Dh Trail? |
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| Jesus-Scotland wrote: | | Why dont we build a trail - or rather cut a trail (not do any major actual work) for people to practice riding in the wet. That way people are more likley to pay attention to the closed trails and not wreck them when it rains. what you all think? |
makes a lot of sense - would cure all those people who's excuse for riding the proper tracks when they shouldn't is "but I need to practice in the wet for wet races"
would need to be somewhere where the visual scarring (cos it's going to rapidly turn into a narrow version of worsleys after the army's had the unimogs up it) won't upset people though - what about reclassing lava flow as 'all conditions' (since it's not much used now anyway)
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dh_winner
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| Posted: Sun 29th Jun 3:53pm Post subject: RE: Re: Wet Dh Trail? |
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| danose wrote: | | Jesus-Scotland wrote: | | Why dont we build a trail - or rather cut a trail (not do any major actual work) for people to practice riding in the wet. That way people are more likley to pay attention to the closed trails and not wreck them when it rains. what you all think? |
makes a lot of sense - would cure all those people who's excuse for riding the proper tracks when they shouldn't is "but I need to practice in the wet for wet races"
would need to be somewhere where the visual scarring (cos it's going to rapidly turn into a narrow version of worsleys after the army's had the unimogs up it) won't upset people though - what about reclassing lava flow as 'all conditions' (since it's not much used now anyway) |
Lava flow would be good but... The bottom half it too one line you you end up with one rut the whole way down the hill. Wet tracks need to be wide and multiple line the whole way (roto nats track in the redwoods stlye). Also the bottom of lava flow is exposed and hence the dreaded "visual impact" comes into it. Its borderline as it is.
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ashesman
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Yeah ... Roto nats in the wet! I have ridden that track after Rotorua's worst rain in years... Scared the tihs out of me in places!
We dont really need a wet track as we have the gums and dazza's (the new line). Just go up to vic park when its raining and have a look, thats where everybody rides!
Even yesterday when I was up track building in the p'sing down rain (yeah, I do stuff like that) and gums had a torrent running down it, there were still people skidding down there.
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Jesus-Scotland
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 12:23am Post subject: |
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| ashesman wrote: | Yeah ... Roto nats in the wet! I have ridden that track after Rotorua's worst rain in years... Scared the tihs out of me in places!
We dont really need a wet track as we have the gums and dazza's (the new line). Just go up to vic park when its raining and have a look, thats where everybody rides!
Even yesterday when I was up track building in the p'sing down rain (yeah, I do stuff like that) and gums had a torrent running down it, there were still people skidding down there. |
watch out people will think your serious! 
I think the main thing about a wet track is not to bother building any features - hard bits of track will develop over a few wet months.
dont build jumps, dont build berms, just dont build anything. leave it natural and it will be great wet weather practice.
Then when people wreck the good tracks in the wet there really will be no excuse. also name the track "The WET track" so there is no confusion.
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Jesus-Scotland
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 12:32am Post subject: RE: Re: Wet Dh Trail? |
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| mattyfreerida wrote: | | Jesus-Scotland wrote: | | Why dont we build a trail - or rather cut a trail (not do any major actual work) for people to practice riding in the wet. That way people are more likley to pay attention to the closed trails and not wreck them when it rains. what you all think? |
what are you going to do when the wet trail is wrecked |
Ride it faster and shout "rider" a lot more :P
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ashesman
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 8:45am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | I think the main thing about a wet track is not to bother building any features - hard bits of track will develop over a few wet months.
dont build jumps, dont build berms, just dont build anything. leave it natural and it will be great wet weather practice.
Then when people wreck the good tracks in the wet there really will be no excuse. also name the track "The WET track" so there is no confusion. |
Yeah, a wet track should have no jumps, drops etc... just lots of ruts and some drainage to stop puddling... Don't really know where to build it. If it is the steep part of the park people will be too scared to ride it!!! The frustrating thing is that even after all this rain which naturally trashes the tracks, people will go out riding and wreck them even more! And its not the groms, from my expereience up there in the rain its the cross country guys that go out riding in the wet, we DHers are too lazy or soft or something!
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inzane
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Yeh, good plan. Does Worsleys not already tick this box?? Certainly are not going to wreck it...
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ashesman
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Worsleys is outside the rapaki/bowenvale/vic park loop so probably why people wont use it. Also maybe a bit steep (at the top) and ugly (everywhere) for a lot of people. What about the new bowenvale track? That is wide and fast at the top (hehehehe wet grass!).
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dh_winner
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| Posted: Mon 30th Jun 10:14am Post subject: |
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Yep you guys have got the idea. Just let people riding it create the features. I would love to put one in the banned mcvicars. 6 min sludge run that has not PC kcollobs stopping it anyone?
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ashesman
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Yeah, I cant wait to get into mcvicars... Hopefuly by then we will have enough beginner/XC tracks in vic park and can move on to building some stuff that people would bother coming to christchurch to ride. And a sloppy, pine needle covered multiple line skidfest trrack so we dont have to stay at home when ti rains...
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