Peak oil is an oil industry created myth anyway...
Hmmm I am not sure that he is totally up with the theory of where oil comes from. From what I have read I thought oil came from organic vegetable matter, not from animals!!
yeah, i was always lead to believe it was from plants, forests and swamps and the like, not dinosaur carcasses (tho they would have been in the mix.)
Peak oil is an oil industry created myth anyway...
Hmmm I am not sure that he is totally up with the theory of where oil comes from. From what I have read I thought oil came from organic vegetable matter, not from animals!!
Earlier I said
Oli wrote:
Good point!
to this, but then it was pointed out to me that
Quote:
Another version of the 'fossil fuel' story holds that microscopic animal carcasses and other biological matter gathered on the world's sea floors, with that organic matter then being covered over with sediment over the course of millions of years. You would think, however, that any biological matter would decompose long before being covered over by sediment. But I guess not. And I guess there were no bottom-feeders in those days to clear the ocean floors of organic debris. Fair enough. But I still don't understand how those massive piles of biological debris, some consisting of hundreds of billions of tons of matter, could have just suddenly appeared, so that they could then sit, undisturbed, for millions of years as they were covered over with sediment. I can understand how biological detritus could accumulate over time, mixed in with the sediment, but that wouldn't really create the conditions for the generation of vast reservoirs of crude oil
and I am forced to wonder...
Not enough though to do any actual research of my own, you understand.
Just remember, he may be knowledgeable in his field but what he's learned in that field is the dogma foisted upon the world by the oil industry. He can not be trusted to have an objective POV, no matter how honest he may be.
Joined: Dec 25, 2001 Posts: 33,000 Location: Liberty City
Posted: Wed 28th May 8:47am Post subject:
Oli wrote:
inzane wrote:
Oli wrote:
Peak oil is an oil industry created myth anyway...
Hmmm I am not sure that he is totally up with the theory of where oil comes from. From what I have read I thought oil came from organic vegetable matter, not from animals!!
Earlier I said
Oli wrote:
Good point!
to this, but then it was pointed out to me that
Quote:
Another version of the 'fossil fuel' story holds that microscopic animal carcasses and other biological matter gathered on the world's sea floors, with that organic matter then being covered over with sediment over the course of millions of years. You would think, however, that any biological matter would decompose long before being covered over by sediment. But I guess not. And I guess there were no bottom-feeders in those days to clear the ocean floors of organic debris. Fair enough. But I still don't understand how those massive piles of biological debris, some consisting of hundreds of billions of tons of matter, could have just suddenly appeared, so that they could then sit, undisturbed, for millions of years as they were covered over with sediment. I can understand how biological detritus could accumulate over time, mixed in with the sediment, but that wouldn't really create the conditions for the generation of vast reservoirs of crude oil
and I am forced to wonder...
Not enough though to do any actual research of my own, you understand.
It's simple. The entire world is currently consuming around 80,000,000 barrels of oil every day (ref) - that's 12,720,000,000 litres of oil every day.
As we use the easily accessible (cheaper) oil first then oil becomes more expensive to pull out of the ground. This raises the price of oil due to exploration/ extraction costs and starts to limit the amount of oil that can be extracted, which also raises prices due to market pressures. Oil extraction also uses oil/energy so at the point where it takes an oil barrel worth of energy for every barrel of oil we extract from the ground the whole exercise becomes totally pointless (not to mention economically unviable.)
12.7 billion litres of oil per day is equivalent to an Olympic sized swimming pool filled with oil every 21 seconds. So if the oil reserves are not being replenished at the rate of an Olympic-sized swimming pool every 21 seconds at some point we will "run out" as we will reach a point where it takes as much energy to extract the oil as the oil provides us (technological advances will mitigate this but at some point this point will be reached.)
Give Wheels a good slapping next time you see him Oli
Joined: Mar 15, 2002 Posts: 13,914 Location: Not quite sure yet...
Posted: Wed 28th May 8:52am Post subject:
Oli wrote:
Just remember, he may be knowledgeable in his field but what he's learned in that field is the dogma foisted upon the world by the oil industry. He can not be trusted to have an objective POV, no matter how honest he may be.
Which is pretty much the same of anyone who has studied in any academic feild.
Given history is wirtten mostly by guys, I must have a masculine view of the world.
But that's a whole different kettle of fish... carry on.
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