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Peak Oil Has Been Passed And The End Of The World Is Nigh


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PostPosted: Wed 20th Feb 11:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

Unfortunately a small number of posts were lost on Sunday the 24th of February 2008. This is one of those posts.
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PostPosted: Sun 8th Jun 11:08am    Post subject: RE: Peak Oil Has Been Passed And The End Of The World Is Nig Reply with quote Report Abuse

In October 2007 Tama wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html wrote:
World oil production has already peaked and will fall by half as soon as 2030, according to a report which also warns that extreme shortages of fossil fuels will lead to wars and social breakdown.

The German-based Energy Watch Group will release its study in London today saying that global oil production peaked in 2006 - much earlier than most experts had expected. The report, which predicts that production will now fall by 7% a year, comes after oil prices set new records almost every day last week, on Friday hitting more than $90 (£44) a barrel.


Stock up on canned goods and head for the hills Double Thumbs Up

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/naturablahblahblah wrote:
THE surge in oil prices to a record level of more than $139 a barrel on Friday has left the economy facing a severe “stagflationary” shock, economists say, with a rising risk of recession alongside high inflation.

A record, two-day surge in oil prices of $16 a barrel last week followed analysts’ predictions that the price will soon hit $150 and could go as high as $200. While others say that the sharply rising price is indicative of a speculative bubble that will soon burst, few investors have so far been prepared to bet against it.


54% in 7 months! W00t foo shizzle daddy-oh. I done love my bikes Double Thumbs Up

Oh yeah, and I fully understand that part of this price rise is speculation from mongdrat investors. I'm so glad the folks that rooted the property market for us and now taking a crack at energy.

Thanks kcuffaces - thanks a lot.
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PostPosted: Sun 8th Jun 11:24am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

The property market was stuff by so many people being prepared to over commit themselves and pay hugely over and above their earning potential for a house to call their own.


At least with petrol, there seems to be a slight willingness for consumers to step away and not pay the asking price.


And the political oil price shocks of the 70's helped the more efficient Asian cars to take dominance, changing the make up of the car market. The current price surge may also have long term effects on the kind of vehicles that are on sale 5 years from now.

Hopefully more energy efficient vehicles - not Mad Max armed to the back teeth fighting off the fuel raider style vehicles.
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PostPosted: Sun 8th Jun 12:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

Garr, the Japanese already have a headstart on the US car manufacturers in terms of reaching the emissions future emission standards
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PostPosted: Sun 8th Jun 12:20pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

That's cos the American auto makers got good at using lawyers and lobbyists to avoid meeting standards. The Asians just got on with the job.

A lot less legal wiggle room for the Yanks these days.
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PostPosted: Sun 8th Jun 12:58pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

I read something the other day that says that driving is still cheaper now (in the US) despite fuel increase as the efficiency of the vehicles have improved so much.

Having said that, my colleague drives an 03 Jeep Wrangler which returns fuel economy nearly 4 times worse than my civic... Which is 10 years older!
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PostPosted: Mon 16th Jun 9:40am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

mudguard wrote:
I read something the other day that says that driving is still cheaper now (in the US) despite fuel increase as the efficiency of the vehicles have improved so much.


That is because their older 'cars' are so bad. They are making more efficient over sized over weight vehicles.





Anyways....
Looks like the vultures are coming in to pick the carcass. Starting to see google ads for 'run your car on water' and 'double your mileage GUARANTEED'. Huh
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PostPosted: Mon 16th Jun 9:43am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

{Posted via mobile.vorb.org.nz} http://www.edmunds.com/advice/fueleconomy/articles/106842/article.html
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PostPosted: Wed 16th Jul 8:52am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

The world is going to tihs economically - which brings record oil price drop! Mammoth mixed messages Batman!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4620192a6026.html

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Oil cartel Opec on Tuesday cut its global demand forecast for 2008 for the fourth time this year, adding consumption would continue to slow in 2009.

Adding downward pressure, Brazilian oil giant Petrobras said its oil output was back at full capacity and would remain so through the end of a five-day energy workers strike that started at midnight on Sunday.

Chevron restored production at the 120,000-barrel-per-day Escravos pipeline in Nigeria, resolving one of the disruptions that have cut the African country's supply.
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PostPosted: Wed 16th Jul 8:54am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

I know its not the politically correct thing to say these days, but the current price of oil has nothing to do with much really.. its just another investor bubble and like all bubbles it will eventually burst..
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PostPosted: Wed 16th Jul 1:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

phunk wrote:
{Posted via mobile.vorb.org.nz} http://www.edmunds.com/advice/fueleconomy/articles/106842/article.html


yup. thats all pretty easy, but what if ya already drive like grandma.? how much savings can ya get then??/
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{Posted via mobile.vorb.org.nz} Stop driving?
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{Posted via mobile.vorb.org.nz} We are saved: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10522017
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PostPosted: Thu 17th Jul 9:54am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

Lets hope it is the start of the bubble bursting.

The oil speculators driving the market fluctuations need a good kick in the balls.
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PostPosted: Thu 17th Jul 10:06am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report Abuse

{Posted via mobile.vorb.org.nz} haha so you got sucked into the 'blame the speculators' too huh.
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