Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby tombomb600 on Wed 8/Jun/11 7:56pm

musket wrote:
znomit wrote:
musket wrote:http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/2377098/directors


Sounds like a good old kiwi mom and pop outfit. :paranoid:


Not really: http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/a ... leType=DIR

The main shareholder (50%) has been Director of numerous other similar outfits - 2 of which have been struck off.


Umm look at the link again. I'm seeing 4 (out of six!).

Fortis Wholesale Cars
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby Slim on Wed 8/Jun/11 7:58pm

Seems the motor industry hasn't been kind.


http://www.coys.co.nz/director-search/? ... de+Russell
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby Spyder on Wed 8/Jun/11 8:05pm

Of at least as much interest is how many previous car importing companies he's been involved in. http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/individual/search?q=HOLLICK%20Clyde%20Russell&roleType=DIR. Does he bail and wind them up when it all gets too hard??

I hope you get a satisfactory result Shmoo.
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby musket on Wed 8/Jun/11 8:08pm

Schmoo - you should lodge a dispute with small claims, inform them, and also tell them you're reporting them to the applicable body (I forget which it is) in respect of safety issues and respected odometer tampering. If they're registered with any industry body, notify them. Throw the words suspected odo tampering and unsafe practices around. Liberally.

Take in a copy of the Director's previous enterprise, inform them you'll be researching the reason those companies were struck off and any similar issues.
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby Simonius_Titius on Wed 8/Jun/11 8:24pm

Surely Mr McKenna or Clyde Russell HOLLICK at Fortis Wholesale Cars would have a nice Mazda wagon for you to tell them you would buy it except that would mean you would have to deal with them again and you would rather ride a Grifter with pink tyres and tasselled handgrips while impaled on the bare seatpost over a cliff and onto sharp rocks with seal poo on them and then get ripped apart by killer seals than do that.

Oh yes some of the later Mazda wagons are good, and nicer to drive than a Corolla, they were good value but a bit expensive for me.
Some 3 wagons were unrelated to the saloon, they were rebadged & tarted up Nissan Wingroads at one stage.

I think the 6's have always been reliable.
A Dog & Lemon guide is a good investment for details on different years & models, it is worth buying your own to scribble on.

Nigel McKenna has been in the papers a lot connected to some kind of fraud or financial cunzedness to the extent that famous celebrity stage hypnotist Paul McKenna found it embarrasing.
"Noel Geoffry McKenna" does not get found by Google however, even without "Director". Sometimes names get slightly misspelt to cover tracks.

Celebrity nudes, car dealers with pimped cars, free ringtones and secondhand car dealers are all found by Google, but not Noel Geoffrey McKenna. You could probably find nude celebrity Nissan car dealers on Google but "Clyde Russell HOLLICK" or "Noel Geoffry McKenna" don't show at all.
The Companies Office looks like the place to go. For info on fraud, ripoff, dodgy illegal and unethical conduct you have to read between the lines sometimes.
If Fortis Wholesale Cars is a dodgy car dealer then all of Onehunga is not safe. Lock up your Nissan, lock up your bling bike.

PS OMG How could I forget about Britney! She presumably had had a nipple slip, slap, slop, slurp in a Nissan in Onehunga. :alien:
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby great uncle bulgaria on Wed 8/Jun/11 8:32pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby ShoreBoy on Wed 8/Jun/11 9:25pm

So, just for clarification purposes, am I right in saying that you purchased a car from Fortis Wholesale Cars, the vehicle had several faults, you advised Fortis Wholesale Cars of said faults, and Fortis Wholesale Cars agreed to refund your money. So you drove to the Fortis Wholesale Cars yard, only to be told by an employee of Fortis Wholesale Cars that Fortis Wholesale Cars will in fact not be refunding your money, so you're now seeking advice on what legal action can be taken against Fortis Wholesale Cars?

And, which one of the contacts listed on their TradeMe account did you deal with?
Was it Nigel Easterbrook 021 824 785?
Or was it Dyan Western - Russell 021 275 9001 or (09) 276 0330?
Or was it Vincent Cook 022 020 1344 or (09) 276 0330?
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby Simon_K on Wed 8/Jun/11 9:26pm

Sweet baby jesus, the dog and lemon guide isnt worth the paper it's printed on...and the fact that TV shows roll that gripper out to do a quick soundbite every now and then, GMG's :satan:

In other news, I hope this works out well for you Schmoo, I've been through this with a friend who bought an RX7(off a yard). it packed up on the first weekend she had it(I know, never saw THAT coming). Was a drawn out but ultimately successful exercise.
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby shmoodiver on Wed 8/Jun/11 10:07pm

musket wrote:Schmoo - you should lodge a dispute with small claims, inform them, and also tell them you're reporting them to the applicable body (I forget which it is) in respect of safety issues and respected odometer tampering. If they're registered with any industry body, notify them. Throw the words suspected odo tampering and unsafe practices around. Liberally.

Take in a copy of the Director's previous enterprise, inform them you'll be researching the reason those companies were struck off and any similar issues.

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Hey maing, should i wait till i get the report back about the trans or just go in guns blazing? at this point i just want to get my money back.
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby Percy Pig on Wed 8/Jun/11 10:58pm

shmoodiver wrote:
musket wrote:Schmoo - you should lodge a dispute with small claims, inform them, and also tell them you're reporting them to the applicable body (I forget which it is) in respect of safety issues and respected odometer tampering. If they're registered with any industry body, notify them. Throw the words suspected odo tampering and unsafe practices around. Liberally.

Take in a copy of the Director's previous enterprise, inform them you'll be researching the reason those companies were struck off and any similar issues.

'
Hey maing, should i wait till i get the report back about the trans or just go in guns blazing? at this point i just want to get my money back.

Load up them guns and let 'em rip I say!! :thumbsup:
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby musket on Wed 8/Jun/11 11:09pm

I'd wait - it means you don't undermine yourself.
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby Simonius_Titius on Thu 9/Jun/11 2:14am

Simon_K wrote:Sweet baby jesus, the Dog and Lemon Guide isnt worth the paper it's printed on...and the fact that TV shows roll that gripper out to do a quick soundbite every now and then, GMG's :satan:
...


As a motorbiker with no car-knowing mates I found the Dog and Lemon Guide helpful intro to track down e.g. which Toyotas used the 5A engine.
The typography is amateur and annoying, the writing is repetitive and annoying but it was a great $20 worth. And there's interesting articles at the front, there was a cubic kilometre of horseshit referred to somewhere, just to mention one highlight.

For detailed specs on standard options Amayama is great. They are a Japanese auction & export outfit I think, anyway you can compare several models to work out how to end up with UV-blocking windows, a lipstick mirror and electric ass warmer.
http://specs.amayama.com/

There was another import wholesaler (Opal?), people said they were very cheap but a lottery, you have to visit in person and know how to test a car yourself. Cars were not registered until after the sale, you couldn't take them for an AA check etc.
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby 928pedlr on Thu 9/Jun/11 9:14pm

The problem with yours sounds like it is the same as I had with mine and it was just a sensor, easily fixed by my dealer thru Cam Trans who did diagnostic with computer and the car led them to the problem (their words).
Sounds abit like Fortis may not have even tried to find the problem.
I had got my car on a Friday had it loose drive briefly and a shudder a couple times over the weekend back to the dealer that week and sorted promptly, been running perfectly since.
The trans itself is perfectly ok.
If you go as far as getting court order against them make sure it is in the name of the directors and car yard or company name (ltd) if they close business and the order is in the business name only you are screwed as far as enforcing it but if is in directors names can still chase them if the car yard is closed down.
Orders from the MVDI are enforcable via the courts but they need to be a member of the LMVDI before you can get an order through that body, I think, but disputes tribunal is always an option.
Sometimes just persisting with guys like this is worthwhile as many people just give up when it gets hard and they know it, try to get everything you can in writing (paper or e-mail) and keep it.
I was lucky with my import, good dealer backup and the car came with a full service history which corresponded with the cars age and kms on it.
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby shmoodiver on Thu 9/Jun/11 9:34pm

have had it at the trans specialist and they say the symptoms are not the trans, still going to nissan for a diagnosis on thursday.
Friend of mine who works at the nissan dealer reckons that the coil packs may have issues so it may be an easy fix, Still not happy with the way the dealers have dealt with us, they had the car for 10 days when we took it too them for the fault and didn't get any phone calls or explanation except for them telling us the car was ready. bri noticed when we got the car back that the floor mats had gone from 4 to 1 but we have no evidence that we had 4 to begin with. When i asked about a service/workshop report they turned around and said they didn't get one so how could they give me one. I pointed out the symptoms to them again and they said the trans is ok ( we thought the symptoms were the trans ) pretty obtuse i thought.

Will see what the peeps at nissan say on thursday and go from there.
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Re: Fortis Wholesale Cars Are Shafters

Postby Spokes on Thu 9/Jun/11 10:03pm

Nissan coil packs in NZ are way expensive. I would be interested to hear what they say. Just been through this with the Max. Nissan quoted me $289 per coil. Best i could get aftermarket was $250. Kinda scary if you need 6 for a Maxima. :crazy:

But I found a guy on ebay that I got them of for $41 landed each. And they are identical in even brand to the factory ones. Will pass on the contact if you need it. Not sure on your car but on the Max you can get the computer to give a flash code on the dash which you can diagnose from. Also knock sensors can give a lot of trouble. They can keep dropping timing back 12 degree then bringing it back giving surging and bad economy.
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