shmoodiver wrote:the spawn of shmoo is doing 40hrs with no technology, tis her birthday tomollo too.... i got her a flash new cell phone! can't wait till she realises she can't use it for a day and a bit
turn it on and send her some texts too

by bubbaa on Sat 22/May/10 6:36pm
shmoodiver wrote:the spawn of shmoo is doing 40hrs with no technology, tis her birthday tomollo too.... i got her a flash new cell phone! can't wait till she realises she can't use it for a day and a bit
by fatwombat on Sat 22/May/10 9:29pm
bubbaa wrote:j2hyde wrote:pissface wrote:so, the 40 hour famine.... ... there's a version of it that doesn't involve food. - kids have to go without anything like internet, listening to music, cellphones, etc for the weekend.
Thats almost as awesome as earth hour. If pathetic tokensim can "stop" the climate from changing then I'm sure it can bring food to africa. Why not?
i think there is a subtle difference. Earth hour people seem to believe that turning lights off for an hour makes a real difference to climate change and that, as you say, pathetic tokenism somehow represents real education. A forty hour famine tries to raise money to donate to buy actual food, as well as educate. I reckon not actually eating for 40 hours (why 40? some sort of biblical thing) is far more likely to actually raise awareness than turning off lights for an hour, but even if not true awareness, the money raised has to be useful.
technology famine?. pllleeease!!
by fatwombat on Sat 22/May/10 9:49pm
by Oli on Sat 22/May/10 9:51pm
World Vision, founded in the United States in 1950, is an international Christian relief and development organization whose stated goal is "to follow our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in working with the poor and oppressed to promote human transformation, seek justice and bear witness to the good news of the Kingdom of God."
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by FSR_Man on Sat 22/May/10 10:17pm
fatwombat wrote:It was founded by a Christian and it is inspired by Christian values but it's not "bible based" the way denominational aid programs are. I did some collaboration programs with World Vision when I ran a humanitarian foundation in Romania and although most of the people are Christians, I would call it an aid organisation, not a Christian organisation, because its goals are all about providing aid, not at all about publicising Christianity or proselytising.
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P2
The Problem of Careerism
Given their mainstream credibility and ecumenical outlook, some have questioned whether World Vision's passion for Christ has been diluted. These concerns are difficult to address, considering the 22,000 staff and great local variations from country to country (or even within countries).
One Asian church leader told me that in his country, "they are so large and their salaries are so much higher than those of [other] Christian organizations that many of the staff—I would say the majority—are there for the money." World Vision pays employees reasonable local salaries, which may mean paying better than the local church. Friction comes when talented people leave other Christian work to join World Vision.
P3
Hirsch says the organization often takes on young professionals who "love Jesus but don't know the Bible." They come from a wide variety of traditions, from Pentecostal to Orthodox, which complicates the task of helping them to grow. They have different vocabularies of faith, from glossolalia to incense.
P4
A cluster meeting convenes in a church: tin roof, cement floor, simple aqua-painted benches. The group is called Mayatima, or "orphans." Though they meet in a church, and most of them probably belong to a church, the group is not based on faith. Rather, it is open to anyone concerned for children affected by AIDS.
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Bob Pierce could have said that. But World Vision operates on a wider field than Pierce dreamed of, with a far more diverse set of partners. Its ethos is ecumenical, pragmatic, professional, and utterly confident, whether interacting with the church or with government. Other Christian relief and development organizations are undoubtedly similar, but none operates on this scale or with this level of influence.
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