So can we take hard dazzas on the way down... it is much more direct, but the drops might scare a few people on xc bikes

Trail wrote:So can we take hard dazzas on the way down... it is much more direct, but the drops might scare a few people on xc bikes

not that i know it but sounds like what mountian biking should be

So do you mean climb from bottom of Dazzas by the 40 footer or all the way from the bottom of Brents? The bottom sections is more of a killer than the top. Double the pain but double the fun down again!

For the Roady option theres always Merlewood Ave

Both climbs are about the same length and grade - approx 350-400m length @ 20% ave grade according to mapmyride

Go from the bottom of Brents and the downhill track includes Rad^Sick??

Trail wrote:Go from the bottom of Brents and the downhill track includes Rad^Sick??

MMM - repeats of up the steep 4wd and down hard dazzas and rad^sick - just about makes the climbs bearable!

grahamt wrote:MMM - repeats of up the steep 4wd and down hard dazzas and rad^sick - just about makes the climbs bearable!

It would be interesting to see who actually turned up. Internet tough-guyness aside, I guess you'd be whittling it down to a pretty small pool of riders who were comfortable with both the up & down.

Bike choice would also be interesting. I'd guess there is more opportunity to gain time on the climbs with a more xc bike than lose it on the way down... but maybe not?. It doesn't matter how fast you are up if you end up broken on the way down .

There's only one compulsory drop in Hard Dazzas, but in Rad^Sick there are about 3/4 jumps you HAVE to do or get off and walk/jump over while holding your bike. Definetly wouldn't do it on an XC bike.

If you're still keen on the road option Port Levy could be good. Maybe a bit long for what your after but would certainly be testing after you'd been up there a number of times.

onbike wrote:If you're still keen on the road option Port Levy could be good. Maybe a bit long for what your after but would certainly be testing after you'd been up there a number of times.

nowhere near steep enough. needs to be 30% plus to get close to the LA one. also, needs to be close to chch - it's only going to work if everyone can do it at once.

Jemetch wrote:

grahamt wrote:MMM - repeats of up the steep 4wd and down hard dazzas and rad^sick - just about makes the climbs bearable!

It would be interesting to see who actually turned up. Internet tough-guyness aside, I guess you'd be whittling it down to a pretty small pool of riders who were comfortable with both the up & down.

Bike choice would also be interesting. I'd guess there is more opportunity to gain time on the climbs with a more xc bike than lose it on the way down... but maybe not?. It doesn't matter how fast you are up if you end up broken on the way down .

Yes you're probably right - the weapon of choice would probably be a 4 - 5" trail bike that can handle both tracks and still be reasonably climbable.

A better route to attract the XC whippets would be to descend on Easy Dazzas / Brents - easily doable on any hardtail.

And have an alternate ascent for the less hard core guys like along from 40 to top of raceline and then up to skid site.

thorg wrote:might I suggest:

start everyone at the bottom and start racing

People get eliminated as the lead rider laps them.

After (set amount of time depending on amount of hardness required, to keep it easy start with 2 hours?) - ring as bell as lead rider across the line, then its all on to finish !

Like it
As for the descent, whatabout Shazzas?

And what are the rules if you fail to clean the climb - dismount and continue or DQ?

I vote for Weld St, Wadestown in Wellington. Look at the lamp posts in street view.

http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ll=-41.26 ... 46,,0,13.2

And once you get to the top, hang a right and come down around the hill to the bottom to start over again.

Plus you have Wadestown Side School half way up which you could use as an event base.

grahamt wrote:So do you mean climb from bottom of Dazzas by the 40 footer or all the way from the bottom of Brents? The bottom sections is more of a killer than the top. Double the pain but double the fun down again!

now we're talking - in fact either option from bottom of brents would be good - either left and up besides brents and straight up beside it and on up beside shazzas, or right and up around the back of cool runnings. Trully insane people can try the 4wd that runs across the middle of cool runnings to the 4wd where the new extension to rad^sick is - it's like a ski ramp!!!

of course the most retarded climb I've ever done in vic park was trying to ride UP the remnant of lower fenceline, I was following this crazy dude on a blue ventana who actually thought it might have been good option for a short track course

grahamt wrote:A better route to attract the XC whippets would be to descend on Easy Dazzas / Brents - easily doable on any hardtail.

you obviously haven't taken a 4" xc race hardtail down brents lately - sure it's not very tech, but those bloody braking holes trully suck on a wee hardtail!!

more to the point - the thought of riding anything even vaguely tech whilst sufferng dancing spots/rubber leg syndrom doesn't appeal - hell if you've really pushed it properly hard up those climbs all you should be capable of at the top is lying down and dry retching, not riding