Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby Mr_Bob on Mon 31/Aug/09 8:41pm

I need new bars?
and flat ones? :eh:
I like the protapers, no previous affiliations are in preference, I just like the sweep of the protapers.
I've got to ask,
Why is your bike on a beach?
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby kleinboy on Mon 31/Aug/09 8:51pm

yep, you do.
Deano will chip in and be my wingman on this I'm sure.
And I threw the beach shot in to see if anyone thought it was odd, given that I am now the most furtherest away from a beach I ever have been in my life.

Did I mention you should try the flat bars ?
Salsa pro motos.

And here's an interesting fact (not a factoid which, I recently learned is actually an untruth)
I changed out my really cheap and nasty 70mm x 25.4 dia. stem and afore mentioned Salsa bars to a Truvativ ATK stem; same length but 31.8 dia. and a pair of Specilaized carbon low riser bars - and gained 60 grams in the process.
How X-files is that ?
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby Monolith on Mon 31/Aug/09 8:54pm

I think the good Mr. Woodward is suggesting a flat bar.

Each to their own when it comes to cockpit arrangement, but with a higher front end it can be a struggle to get a good setup - a flat bar and a longer stem help get your weight over the front wheel properly, for more accurate steering, better braking and better climbing. Your setup, using a 2" rise bar and a 50mm stem isn't the norm, but if it works for you... :thumbsup:
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby Scotty on Mon 31/Aug/09 8:57pm

kleinboy wrote:Oh, Bob.

Not one see you wallowing in your own newness to the 29 phenomenom (excuse spelling) I would like to highlight the following points:
1) 29 inch wheels are bigger in diameter than 26 inch wheels
2) You no longer work for Sportspro
3) 29ers are inherently taller in the front than your average 26er
4) What I'm trying to say you could easily go to a flat bar...............
5) I'm practising to be a politician and avoiding the most direct route to the actual point I'm trying to make

I didn't want to be a negative fucker, but.. well... since Rick started it...

Bob, you keep getting your handlebars WRONG. :cry:

At least run something with a one-inch rise, those bars make it look and no doubt ride like an old ladie's cruiser.

Try rick's suggestion, you won't regret it. :)
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby pushbikerider on Mon 31/Aug/09 8:57pm

kleinboy wrote:Did I mention you should try the flat bars ?
Salsa pro motos.


I would suggest Gravity 777, cut down to a less grom like width

they aren't a flat bar like would have come on your old GT xc bike, they have more sweep 10-11 degrees, so you can set them up with back sweep and up-sweep (like a riser)

I've got a set sitting at home about to go on my SS (I just need to cut a bit more off them, down to about 710) your welcome to come check them out,

low front ends rock (more grip more control)
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby kleinboy on Mon 31/Aug/09 8:58pm

Monolith wrote:I think the good Mr. Woodward is suggesting a flat bar.

Each to their own when it comes to cockpit arrangement, but with a higher front end it can be a struggle to get a good setup - a flat bar and a longer stem help get your weight over the front wheel properly, for more accurate steering, better braking and better climbing. Your setup, using a 2" rise bar and a 50mm stem isn't the norm, but if it works for you... :thumbsup:


No, that's not what I said at all.
Did you not listen the first time ?
Where the hell is Dean when you need him ?
See I told you I couold be a politician.

Whoah there boyo - just had a nice soothing cup of Tourets and drank from the wrong side of the cup !

Yeah, it's all personal - but hell, we know we're right.
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby pushbikerider on Mon 31/Aug/09 9:03pm

kleinboy wrote: to a Truvativ ATK stem; same length but 31.8 dia. and a pair of Specilaized carbon low riser bars - and gained 60 grams in the process.
How X-files is that ?


its because you didn't buy quality FSA product ;)
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby Monolith on Mon 31/Aug/09 9:04pm

maybe he got some of the "carbon" specialized bars... you know, the alloy ones with 1 layer of carbon stuck around them :D
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby kleinboy on Mon 31/Aug/09 9:07pm

pushbikerider wrote:
kleinboy wrote: to a Truvativ ATK stem; same length but 31.8 dia. and a pair of Specilaized carbon low riser bars - and gained 60 grams in the process.
How X-files is that ?


its because you didn't buy quality FSA product ;)



That's only because you didn't sense my need to change bars and ring and hook a brother up !

call yourself a wingman !

Co-incidently is it just the ATK stem or is 31.8 a heavier set up ??
Over 25.4 - cause the stem I took off was nasty, and cheap.
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby kleinboy on Mon 31/Aug/09 9:09pm

I've just got to fold the washing up before the mrs gets home, but hang in there for more enlightnenment upon my return :)
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby pushbikerider on Mon 31/Aug/09 9:10pm

kleinboy wrote:
pushbikerider wrote:
kleinboy wrote: to a Truvativ ATK stem; same length but 31.8 dia. and a pair of Specilaized carbon low riser bars - and gained 60 grams in the process.
How X-files is that ?


its because you didn't buy quality FSA product ;)



That's only because you didn't sense my need to change bars and ring and hook a brother up !

call yourself a wingman !

Co-incidently is it just the ATK stem or is 31.8 a heavier set up ??
Over 25.4 - cause the stem I took off was nasty, and cheap.


I won't comment on the Truvative, generally stem for stem, bar for bar 31.8 is a similar weight or slightly heavier, but with wider bars / aggressive riding, generally 31.8 is a stiffer interface, which makes sense for modern MTB's

I've also come across some cheap / nasty / light stems, but generally not strong
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby Oli on Mon 31/Aug/09 9:12pm

Kleinboy gives the best advice... :love:
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby Jim on Mon 31/Aug/09 9:16pm

Oli wrote:Kleinboy gives the best advice... :love:



Rick would be no good as a politician then.
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby kleinboy on Mon 31/Aug/09 9:22pm

Monolith wrote:maybe he got some of the "carbon" specialized bars... you know, the alloy ones with 1 layer of carbon stuck around them :D


You're probably on the money, but at least they didn't come out of the warranty bin - so I have indeed lifted my game.

And I'm such an aggressive rider I need all the interface I can get.

(for my one weekly ride I really lay the smack down)
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Re: Bob Builds Up A 29er

Postby pushbikerider on Mon 31/Aug/09 9:29pm

kleinboy wrote:
Monolith wrote:maybe he got some of the "carbon" specialized bars... you know, the alloy ones with 1 layer of carbon stuck around them :D


You're probably on the money, but at least they didn't come out of the warranty bin - so I have indeed lifted my game.

And I'm such an aggressive rider I need all the interface I can get.

(for my one weekly ride I really lay the smack down)


I heard you're laying down so much aggression that you're still running 22.2 bar and stem
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