Belt Drives Pwn You All

Craftworks_rider · *by **Craftworks_rider** on Mon 8/Sep/08 10:48am*

bikeys wrote:
tripler wrote: Belts flex but dont really stretch.

Honestly dont want to get into this so lets make this as simple as possible. Find someone who has a Bridgestone folding bike from 20yrs ago and ask them how there belt has been holding out, I did. Think of how many chainrings, cogs and chains that a single speed bike would have gone thru between now and then?
Lets just say the belt starts looking a hell of alot more economical to say the least.
I might add that most of the big dogs in the bike industry dont have a creative bone in there bodies and thats why they are revisting this old arse technology, hoping that some us forgot or never knew it has already been done!

You are not comparing apples with apples single speed commuter bike's have chains that last well over 20 years here is one that is over 40 and still going.

bikeys · *by **bikeys** on Mon 8/Sep/08 11:08am*

You are not comparing apples with apples single speed commuter bike's have chains that last well over 20 years here is one that is over 40 and still going.[/quote

measure the amount that chain has stretched and get back to me sherwin, I bet the belt is no where near as loosy goosy, nor the cog and ring anywhere near as worn! That is what I mainly am talking about! No rocket scientist but chains were alot thicker than todays single speed standards. Wish someone would bring back 1 inch pitch track chains, now that was a real mans chain!

radical_edward · *by **radical_edward** on Mon 8/Sep/08 11:22am*

The point is, you can replace the drivetrain of 90% of bikes built since the end of inch pitch simply by visiting your LBS. The chain on that bike is not unlike bmx chain, as are thread on free wheels. If it is sturmey archer, then you can purchase brand new asian made versions, made from the same tooling but with improved materials.

Sure, not all of this is day to day stock at your LBS, but it is still in the supply chain. Can you pop down to your local Bridgestone dealer and order a replacement belt?

Sometimes a lack of innovation is a very good thing.

ratrod · *by **ratrod** on Mon 8/Sep/08 12:08pm*

radical_edward wrote: Can you pop down to your local Bridgestone dealer and order a replacement belt?

A good engineering or bearing shop you can. As long as it's a standard profile and pitch, and considering the cost of a one off belt I'd imagine it would be. And they come in white.

bikeys · *by **bikeys** on Mon 8/Sep/08 1:39pm*

ratrod wrote:
radical_edward wrote: Can you pop down to your local Bridgestone dealer and order a replacement belt?

A good engineering or bearing shop you can. As long as it's a standard profile and pitch, and considering the cost of a one off belt I'd imagine it would be. And they come in white.

Now thats the spirit of a true Kiwi I have learned to love an embrace! I would trust any shed across this country with good old #8, would pop that out in there sleep! Nigga pleeeze, I would trust the guy in the local shed before I would ever consider a shop for any mods to my rigs! They even come in white! you da man!

thekiwi · *by **thekiwi** on Mon 8/Sep/08 1:42pm*

bikeys wrote:

Now thats the spirit of a true Kiwi I have learned to love an embrace! I would trust any shed across this country with good old #8, would pop that out in there sleep! Nigga pleeeze, I would trust the guy in the local shed before I would ever consider a shop for any mods to my rigs! They even come in white! you da man!

Hmmm must remember that Freddie

You not want anyone bringing their bikes into your shop?

Spokes · *by **Spokes** on Mon 8/Sep/08 1:46pm*

thekiwi wrote:
bikeys wrote:

Now thats the spirit of a true Kiwi I have learned to love an embrace! I would trust any shed across this country with good old #8, would pop that out in there sleep! Nigga pleeeze, I would trust the guy in the local shed before I would ever consider a shop for any mods to my rigs! They even come in white! you da man!

Hmmm must remember that Freddie You not want anyone bringing their bikes into your shop?

Next thing you know they will be making bikes out of wood. :butbut:

bikeys · *by **bikeys** on Mon 8/Sep/08 2:04pm*

Spokes wrote:
thekiwi wrote:
bikeys wrote:

Now thats the spirit of a true Kiwi I have learned to love an embrace! I would trust any shed across this country with good old #8, would pop that out in there sleep! Nigga pleeeze, I would trust the guy in the local shed before I would ever consider a shop for any mods to my rigs! They even come in white! you da man!

Hmmm must remember that Freddie You not want anyone bringing their bikes into your shop?

Next thing you know they will be making bikes out of wood.

Better yet, Native NZ flax fiber composite? Cant wait to produce a frame that was hand made and grown in NZ, thats my dream! Flax is the shizzle!

Spokes · *by **Spokes** on Mon 8/Sep/08 2:13pm*

bikeys wrote:
Spokes wrote:
thekiwi wrote:
bikeys wrote:

Now thats the spirit of a true Kiwi I have learned to love an embrace! I would trust any shed across this country with good old #8, would pop that out in there sleep! Nigga pleeeze, I would trust the guy in the local shed before I would ever consider a shop for any mods to my rigs! They even come in white! you da man!

Hmmm must remember that Freddie You not want anyone bringing their bikes into your shop?

Next thing you know they will be making bikes out of wood.

Better yet, Native NZ flax fiber composite? Cant wait to produce a frame that was hand made and grown in NZ, thats my dream! Flax is the shizzle!

I hear flax makes good baskets.

tripler · *by **tripler** on Mon 8/Sep/08 5:52pm*

Well you can get wooden wheels wooden frames wooden mudgaurds so 90% would be wood,somewhere someone said that to put the a new belt on you would have to break the frame or have a specially built frame with removerable dropouts,waste of time and money,I have a bike in the shed that needs no modification at all,my Elevated chainstay frame,thats why I would build it with a beltdrive if it where cheap enuff to get the parts

tripler · *by **tripler** on Mon 8/Sep/08 5:55pm*

by the way Craftworks_rider that bike is awesume,make,modal?

mtb_sloth · *by **mtb_sloth** on Mon 8/Sep/08 9:47pm*

You can see the bikes have a split drop out, the belt has to get in there some way as well.

bikeys, please learn to quote before you continue baiting

Conners · *by **Conners** on Mon 8/Sep/08 10:01pm*

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Cheers for that - coolest thing I've seen today :thumbsup:

(and believe me I've seen some pretty cool stuff today!!!)

Fraser · *by **Fraser** on Mon 8/Sep/08 10:56pm*

Rubber toothed belts stretch and will need to be replaced just like a chain. For Auntie Ellma on a commuter bike with an enclosed cover it would be good. But not for racing.
The main use for rubber toothed belts is being disposible. They are the softest component and so will wear quickest.

Craftworks_rider · *by **Craftworks_rider** on Tue 9/Sep/08 12:36am*

bikeys wrote:
Craftworks_Rider wrote:You are not comparing apples with apples single speed commuter bike's have chains that last well over 20 years here is one that is over 40 and still going.

measure the amount that chain has stretched and get back to me sherwin, I bet the belt is no where near as loosy goosy, nor the cog and ring anywhere near as worn! That is what I mainly am talking about! No rocket scientist but chains were alot thicker than todays single speed standards. Wish someone would bring back 1 inch pitch track chains, now that was a real mans chain!

That is kind of my point the slack in the chain just does not matter.
If you had even a tenth of that stretch in a belt it would not work.
As for the chain being thicker than today I don't recall it looking any bigger than the one I run on my dirt jump bike, but I could be wrong.
Also as a side note the belt may still run fine on a 20 year old belt drive but how are the bearings in the bb and hub from the constant tension?

And learn to quote

bikeys wrote: Sherwin

it's not

bikeys wrote: rocket science

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