Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby mark2c on Wed 10/Mar/10 6:08pm

handy-andy wrote:...
The people who own the DX lights have not experienced the dodgy this, swarf that and no heatsinking. That's just a rumour perpetuated by impartial persons without an interest to declare **cough cough**

I see your :satan: and I raise you :satan: :satan:


Now look here: building-night-lights-t55312-855.html?hilit=diy%20lighting#p2126396

Actually the quality of DX lights has improved since then. Two issues only remain IMO:
1) current sensing resistor (I just put a bigger one in for about $0.10 and
2) waterproofing. I wrap the battery pack in glad wrap and this is sorted.

I redo the heatsink goo as well, but it would be OK for ages anyway (way better than halogen or HID anyway). For the price WTH?
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby Nick_K on Wed 10/Mar/10 6:19pm

danose wrote:in the end all this talk of dodgy this, swarf that and no heatsinking makes me very glad I paid the extra for a quadblasst :satan:


The old adage you get what you pay for rings true. I've had my nighlighting iblassts for a couple of years using them at least 3 times a week for most of the year and they're been nothing but brilliant.

Not cheap but imho worth every cent. Ive had more use per $ than any other bike component Ive owned.
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby danose on Wed 10/Mar/10 7:02pm

handy-andy wrote:
danose wrote:in the end all this talk of dodgy this, swarf that and no heatsinking makes me very glad I paid the extra for a quadblasst :satan:


Not as glad as the retailers to whom you paid your money.


retailers? NL sell direct (well there is the very odd shop that has there stuff). No hype, minimal marketting costs (sell on reputation) - all good :thumbsup:
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby danose on Wed 10/Mar/10 7:04pm

RussS wrote:Yer I have danose - but not sure I want to carry aound the weight needed to power them for a coupel hours :crazy:


I think eric is exploring the whole 'can you have too much light' thing - maybe it'll be popular with MX riders? then again, remember when everyone insisted 700 lumens was 'way too much' and somehow went against the spirit of nightriding? :D
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby danose on Wed 10/Mar/10 7:06pm

Nick_K wrote:The old adage you get what you pay for rings true. I've had my nighlighting iblassts for a couple of years using them at least 3 times a week for most of the year and they're been nothing but brilliant.

Not cheap but imho worth every cent. Ive had more use per $ than any other bike component Ive owned.


the first time you get stranded in the middle of nowhere with no light you realise that 'cheap' lights just ain't worth it (couple of experiences of that with my old topeak moonshine was enough to make me realise the long walk/stumble down the hill just ain't worth saving a couple of hundred bucks)
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby znomit on Wed 10/Mar/10 7:09pm

danose wrote: No hype, minimal marketting costs (sell on reputation) - all good :thumbsup:


And with only one seller there isn't any issues with price fixing. :)
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby cruiser on Wed 10/Mar/10 7:12pm

:withstupid: I have the quadblast and I concur, cheap for me too - I use my li-ion power tool batteries.

mark2c wrote:
cruiser wrote:much spam here???


Looks like spam to me. He doesn't appear to be in a hurry to:
1) Quantify what the 'upgrade' over the DX sourced lights is (Russ's experience appears to be that this is zero) and

2) What the upgrade over the Lupine Tesla is.

Looks like sales talk/BS to me. Isn't this the guy who got a warning from the Commerce Commission for attempted price fixing?


yeah it is, although he denies it saying it was an ernie travers no relation to him :lol: and yet he also said in the same sentence, this person will no longer be selling these lights on trade me. He had them at $149 and tried to negotiate with the DX importer to price fix them up at $189 which is still undercutting his retailers!!

It's just dodgy all round
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby DogsBollocks on Thu 11/Mar/10 8:39am

Anyone had experience with/seen/used/have an opinion on one of these ?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Cycling ... 736574.htm
I already have access to batteries and have a charger so figure it could be a good cheap system for me to use at the Bottle puddle night races. Thoughts ? :)
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby TonyT1961 on Thu 11/Mar/10 9:12am

DogsBollocks wrote:Anyone had experience with/seen/used/have an opinion on one of these ?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Cycling ... 736574.htm
I already have access to batteries and have a charger so figure it could be a good cheap system for me to use at the Bottle puddle night races. Thoughts ? :)


GO to Repco and buy the lights yourself. They are about $80 for 2. They work OK. I made a couple up last year for myself and a friend but upgraded to a Quadblast. My mate is still running his. With a 50watt bulb, they run about 1.5 hours on a 6ah battery. Most hardware stores sell a range of bulbs with various ratings so it is worth exprimenting. They come with a 50 watt bulb but I think my mate uses a 35watt one in there now.
They are a good entry light for night riding and definitely capable, but nowhere near as good as a LED unit.
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby NZBound on Thu 11/Mar/10 11:53am

Myself and 2 other mates have these

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25149

very good lights, took about 6 weeks to get them but for just over $100 you cant go wrong
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby mark2c on Thu 11/Mar/10 1:14pm

NZBound wrote:Myself and 2 other mates have these

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25149

very good lights, took about 6 weeks to get them but for just over $100 you cant go wrong


Agreed.

Or better still get the one with the helmet mount included for free: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29489
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby Nick_K on Thu 11/Mar/10 6:58pm

Nick_K wrote:
danose wrote:in the end all this talk of dodgy this, swarf that and no heatsinking makes me very glad I paid the extra for a quadblasst :satan:


The old adage you get what you pay for rings true. I've had my nighlighting iblassts for a couple of years using them at least 3 times a week for most of the year and they're been nothing but brilliant.

Not cheap but imho worth every cent. Ive had more use per $ than any other bike component Ive owned.


Just emailed eric and I can upgrade my iblaast I's to quad Cree XLG's. 1600 lumens ftw!
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby znomit on Thu 11/Mar/10 9:37pm

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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby danose on Thu 11/Mar/10 9:44pm

Nick_K wrote:
Nick_K wrote:
danose wrote:in the end all this talk of dodgy this, swarf that and no heatsinking makes me very glad I paid the extra for a quadblasst :satan:


The old adage you get what you pay for rings true. I've had my nighlighting iblassts for a couple of years using them at least 3 times a week for most of the year and they're been nothing but brilliant.

Not cheap but imho worth every cent. Ive had more use per $ than any other bike component Ive owned.


Just emailed eric and I can upgrade my iblaast I's to quad Cree XLG's. 1600 lumens ftw!


yep - lets see ANY other manufacturer who's keen to upgrade 'old' products. And not only that - he charges amazingly little for the upgrades (basically parts cost - very little time component even though it's a fiddly job), that's what keeps the customers coming back and people like you and me raving about how they're worth EVERY cent :thumbsup:

hmmm - wonder what he can do to the old endurenz/blaast - heading towards night trail running season and having even more light to chase the possums in vic park could be cool
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Re: Advice On Night Lights

Postby mark2c on Thu 11/Mar/10 9:45pm

Znomit - he's probably got a good defense: 'I lifted the wrong photo from mtbr.com - could have happened to anyone'...

Notice he still hasn't answered the questions about how his lights are an upgrade on the Lupine Tesla and are better than the DX sourced lights.

Looks like time for another dose of CommComm
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